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  1. Re: Postgresql 18 Linux (all flavors) - with installation, create new instance/main database

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2026-05-07T14:07:00Z

    Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net> writes:
    > On 2026-05-07 Th 8:44 AM, Isaac Morland wrote:
    >> No, make/ninja install should not create a database. That is
    >> outside its appropriate responsibilities. Installing from source
    >> stops once the binaries are installed.  Using the installed
    >> product is up to the user.
    >> 
    >> Also there are lots of reasons to install Postgres without creating an 
    >> instance. This is actually one of the things I don't like about the 
    >> Ubuntu installer, which defaults to creating an instance (although 
    >> this behaviour can be suppressed by creating a config file with an 
    >> appropriate directive first).
    
    > +1 It's annoyed me many times.
    
    Yeah.  When I was with Red Hat, there was a pretty nearly ironclad
    rule that simply installing a package shouldn't cause it to do
    anything.  The argument for this was that you should be able to
    select fairly large package sets at system install time and not
    worry about half-configured servers starting up on you.  Exceptions
    were made for services that were (a) essential to system functionality
    and (b) having default configurations that were both secure and
    widely useful as-is.  It's impossible to argue that Postgres meets
    either condition.
    
    			regards, tom lane