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  1. FAQs and Port Status

    Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> — 2006-11-27T23:25:55Z

    The various ports and FAQs are fairly confusing, I note.
    http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    
    - AIX FAQ could do with some work, its long with lots of As and not many
    Qs, so its hard to understand what its telling you. But it clearly
    works, judging by the build farm. Sorry to criticise when there's such a
    wealth of detail there.
    
    - HP/UX FAQ mentions rel 7.3 only and there's no build farm result, but
    I'm wondering whether some eagle-eyed hacker still uses it, or whether
    this port has fallen into disuse?
    
    - IRIX FAQ mentions rel 7.2, which we really ought to mention is not
    supported anymore in the FAQ, or remove it.
    
    - MINGW/Windows FAQ claims to be the FAQ for "Native Win32", which is
    interesting because the Windows FAQ says that as well...
    
    - QNX FAQ doesn't exist at all; real-time is a thing of the past
    http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ_QNX4.html
    
    - SCO FAQ's title is FAQ for 7.3, then starts with explaining how 8.0
    works with UnixWare. I see warthog running HEAD on UnixWare nicely, so
    there's some updating required there.
    
    - Solaris FAQ - I found some DTrace docs... cool
    
    It would be just great if we could have a link from the FAQ/Platform
    area to the buildfarm, with an encouragement to see for themselves
    whether their desired release works well on their chosen platform.
    All that grand work should be shouted about...
    
    Many people's questions will be does it work with Linux Flavour X, so we
    should send them straight to the buildfarm to answer their own query. 
    
    It would be good if the FAQ page could be renamed "FAQ and Port Status"
    
    -- 
      Simon Riggs             
      EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com
    
    
    
    
  2. Re: FAQs and Port Status

    Chris Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org> — 2006-11-28T15:59:23Z

    simon@2ndquadrant.com ("Simon Riggs") writes:
    > The various ports and FAQs are fairly confusing, I note.
    > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    >
    > - AIX FAQ could do with some work, its long with lots of As and not
    > many Qs, so its hard to understand what its telling you. But it
    > clearly works, judging by the build farm. Sorry to criticise when
    > there's such a wealth of detail there.
    
    Unfortunately, it has grown organically, adding responses to problems
    that we have run into.
    
    It is a bit confusing, but I'm not quite sure what to do to make it
    appear more organized, as the issues discussed are fairly independent
    of one another.
    
    All I can say is that AIX troubleshooting is quite a circus...
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  3. Re: [HACKERS] FAQs and Port Status

    Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> — 2006-11-28T16:52:29Z

    Feel free to submit a patch to clean up what you can.
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Simon Riggs wrote:
    > The various ports and FAQs are fairly confusing, I note.
    > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    > 
    > - AIX FAQ could do with some work, its long with lots of As and not many
    > Qs, so its hard to understand what its telling you. But it clearly
    > works, judging by the build farm. Sorry to criticise when there's such a
    > wealth of detail there.
    > 
    > - HP/UX FAQ mentions rel 7.3 only and there's no build farm result, but
    > I'm wondering whether some eagle-eyed hacker still uses it, or whether
    > this port has fallen into disuse?
    > 
    > - IRIX FAQ mentions rel 7.2, which we really ought to mention is not
    > supported anymore in the FAQ, or remove it.
    > 
    > - MINGW/Windows FAQ claims to be the FAQ for "Native Win32", which is
    > interesting because the Windows FAQ says that as well...
    > 
    > - QNX FAQ doesn't exist at all; real-time is a thing of the past
    > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ_QNX4.html
    > 
    > - SCO FAQ's title is FAQ for 7.3, then starts with explaining how 8.0
    > works with UnixWare. I see warthog running HEAD on UnixWare nicely, so
    > there's some updating required there.
    > 
    > - Solaris FAQ - I found some DTrace docs... cool
    > 
    > It would be just great if we could have a link from the FAQ/Platform
    > area to the buildfarm, with an encouragement to see for themselves
    > whether their desired release works well on their chosen platform.
    > All that grand work should be shouted about...
    > 
    > Many people's questions will be does it work with Linux Flavour X, so we
    > should send them straight to the buildfarm to answer their own query. 
    > 
    > It would be good if the FAQ page could be renamed "FAQ and Port Status"
    > 
    > -- 
    >   Simon Riggs             
    >   EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com
    > 
    > 
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  4. Re: FAQs and Port Status

    Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> — 2006-11-28T16:53:35Z

    Oh, and would someone remove the QNX faq mention on this web page:
    
    	http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
    
    Simon Riggs wrote:
    > The various ports and FAQs are fairly confusing, I note.
    > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    > 
    > - AIX FAQ could do with some work, its long with lots of As and not many
    > Qs, so its hard to understand what its telling you. But it clearly
    > works, judging by the build farm. Sorry to criticise when there's such a
    > wealth of detail there.
    > 
    > - HP/UX FAQ mentions rel 7.3 only and there's no build farm result, but
    > I'm wondering whether some eagle-eyed hacker still uses it, or whether
    > this port has fallen into disuse?
    > 
    > - IRIX FAQ mentions rel 7.2, which we really ought to mention is not
    > supported anymore in the FAQ, or remove it.
    > 
    > - MINGW/Windows FAQ claims to be the FAQ for "Native Win32", which is
    > interesting because the Windows FAQ says that as well...
    > 
    > - QNX FAQ doesn't exist at all; real-time is a thing of the past
    > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ_QNX4.html
    > 
    > - SCO FAQ's title is FAQ for 7.3, then starts with explaining how 8.0
    > works with UnixWare. I see warthog running HEAD on UnixWare nicely, so
    > there's some updating required there.
    > 
    > - Solaris FAQ - I found some DTrace docs... cool
    > 
    > It would be just great if we could have a link from the FAQ/Platform
    > area to the buildfarm, with an encouragement to see for themselves
    > whether their desired release works well on their chosen platform.
    > All that grand work should be shouted about...
    > 
    > Many people's questions will be does it work with Linux Flavour X, so we
    > should send them straight to the buildfarm to answer their own query. 
    > 
    > It would be good if the FAQ page could be renamed "FAQ and Port Status"
    > 
    > -- 
    >   Simon Riggs             
    >   EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com
    > 
    > 
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  5. Re: [HACKERS] FAQs and Port Status

    Simon Riggs <simon@2ndquadrant.com> — 2006-11-28T17:40:18Z

    On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 11:52 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
    > Feel free to submit a patch to clean up what you can.
    
    Happy to do so. I just didn't want to tread on the toes of the current
    maintainers. 
    
    
    -- 
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      EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com
    
    
    
    
  6. Re: [HACKERS] FAQs and Port Status

    Matteo Beccati <php@beccati.com> — 2006-11-28T18:27:24Z

    Bruce Momjian ha scritto:
    > Feel free to submit a patch to clean up what you can.
    > 
    > Simon Riggs wrote:
    >> - IRIX FAQ mentions rel 7.2, which we really ought to mention is not
    >> supported anymore in the FAQ, or remove it.
    
    I will probably play with it in my spare time as soon as I get my new 
    SGI Octane2 working (hopefully soon), and contribute any useful info.
    
    Feel free to remove it for the time being though.
    
    
    Best regards
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  7. Re: FAQs and Port Status

    Chris Browne <cbbrowne@acm.org> — 2006-11-28T18:48:11Z

    simon@2ndquadrant.com ("Simon Riggs") writes:
    > On Tue, 2006-11-28 at 11:52 -0500, Bruce Momjian wrote:
    >> Feel free to submit a patch to clean up what you can.
    >
    > Happy to do so. I just didn't want to tread on the toes of the current
    > maintainers. 
    
    If you have useful suggestions for the AIX one, I'd be happy to see
    it.  I did a browse, as one of the contributors, and it's not clear to
    me how to improve it...
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  8. Re: [HACKERS] FAQs and Port Status

    Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> — 2006-11-28T19:32:29Z

    All,
    
    For an amusing note, there is someone currently working on porting PG to 
    AmigaAnywhere.
    
    -- 
    Josh Berkus
    PostgreSQL @ Sun
    San Francisco
    
    
  9. Re: FAQs and Port Status

    Magnus Hagander <mha@sollentuna.net> — 2006-11-29T22:16:31Z

    Removed.
    
    //Magnus 
    
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org 
    > [mailto:pgsql-www-owner@postgresql.org] On Behalf Of Bruce Momjian
    > Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 5:54 PM
    > To: Simon Riggs
    > Cc: PostgreSQL www
    > Subject: Re: [pgsql-www] FAQs and Port Status
    > 
    > 
    > Oh, and would someone remove the QNX faq mention on this web page:
    > 
    > 	http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    > 
    > --------------------------------------------------------------
    > -------------
    > 
    > Simon Riggs wrote:
    > > The various ports and FAQs are fairly confusing, I note.
    > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq/
    > > 
    > > - AIX FAQ could do with some work, its long with lots of As and not 
    > > many Qs, so its hard to understand what its telling you. But it 
    > > clearly works, judging by the build farm. Sorry to criticise when 
    > > there's such a wealth of detail there.
    > > 
    > > - HP/UX FAQ mentions rel 7.3 only and there's no build farm result, 
    > > but I'm wondering whether some eagle-eyed hacker still uses it, or 
    > > whether this port has fallen into disuse?
    > > 
    > > - IRIX FAQ mentions rel 7.2, which we really ought to 
    > mention is not 
    > > supported anymore in the FAQ, or remove it.
    > > 
    > > - MINGW/Windows FAQ claims to be the FAQ for "Native 
    > Win32", which is 
    > > interesting because the Windows FAQ says that as well...
    > > 
    > > - QNX FAQ doesn't exist at all; real-time is a thing of the past 
    > > http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs.FAQ_QNX4.html
    > > 
    > > - SCO FAQ's title is FAQ for 7.3, then starts with 
    > explaining how 8.0 
    > > works with UnixWare. I see warthog running HEAD on UnixWare 
    > nicely, so 
    > > there's some updating required there.
    > > 
    > > - Solaris FAQ - I found some DTrace docs... cool
    > > 
    > > It would be just great if we could have a link from the 
    > FAQ/Platform 
    > > area to the buildfarm, with an encouragement to see for themselves 
    > > whether their desired release works well on their chosen platform.
    > > All that grand work should be shouted about...
    > > 
    > > Many people's questions will be does it work with Linux 
    > Flavour X, so 
    > > we should send them straight to the buildfarm to answer 
    > their own query.
    > > 
    > > It would be good if the FAQ page could be renamed "FAQ and 
    > Port Status"
    > > 
    > > -- 
    > >   Simon Riggs             
    > >   EnterpriseDB   http://www.enterprisedb.com
    > > 
    > > 
    > > 
    > > ---------------------------(end of 
    > > broadcast)---------------------------
    > > TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to
    > >        choose an index scan if your joining column's 
    > datatypes do not
    > >        match
    > 
    > -- 
    >   Bruce Momjian   bruce@momjian.us
    >   EnterpriseDB    http://www.enterprisedb.com
    > 
    >   + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. +
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    > broadcast)---------------------------
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