Re: Add new protocol message to change GUCs for usage with future protocol-only GUCs
Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
From: Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Jelte Fennema-Nio <me@jeltef.nl>
Cc: Peter Smith <smithpb2250@gmail.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>,
Jacob Burroughs <jburroughs@instructure.com>,
PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>,
Dave Cramer <davecramer@gmail.com>, "Andrey M. Borodin"
<x4mmm@yandex-team.ru>, Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com>,
Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
Date: 2024-04-04T12:50:27Z
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libpq: Add min/max_protocol_version connection options
- 285613c60a7a 18.0 landed
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libpq: Handle NegotiateProtocolVersion message differently
- 5070349102af 18.0 landed
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Add PQfullProtocolVersion() to surface the precise protocol version.
- cdb6b0fdb0b2 18.0 landed
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Do not hardcode PG_PROTOCOL_LATEST in NegotiateProtocolVersion
- 516b87502dc1 18.0 landed
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libpq: Handle NegotiateProtocolVersion message
- bbf9c282ce92 16.0 cited
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Provide for forward compatibility with future minor protocol versions.
- ae65f6066dc3 11.0 cited
On 14.03.24 21:33, Robert Haas wrote: > You seem to be supposing here that all protocol changes will consist > of adding new message types. While I think that will be a common > pattern, I do not think it will be a universal one. As an additional data point, the column encryption patch that is currently on hiatus [0] uses a protocol extension to change the format of existing message types. [0]: https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/89157929-c2b6-817b-6025-8e4b2d89d88f@enterprisedb.com > This is definitely not how I was thinking about it. I was imagining > that we wanted to reserve bumping the protocol version for more > significant changes, and that we'd use _pq_ parameters for relatively > minor new functionality whether Boolean-valued or otherwise. It appears there are several different perspectives about this. My intuition was that a protocol version change indicates something that we eventually want all client libraries to support. Whereas protocol extensions are truly opt-in. For example, if we didn't have the ParameterStatus message and someone wanted to add it, then this ought to be a protocol version change, so that we eventually get everyone to adopt it. But, for example, the column encryption feature is not something I'd expect all client libraries to implement, so it can be opt-in. (I believe we have added a number of new protocol messages since the beginning of the 3.0 protocol, without any version change, so "new protocol message" might not always be a good example to begin with.) I fear that if we prefer protocol extensions over version increases, then we'd get a very fragmented landscape of different client libraries supporting different combinations of things.