Re: Possible regression setting GUCs on \connect
Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org>
From: "Jonathan S. Katz" <jkatz@postgresql.org>
To: Pavel Borisov <pashkin.elfe@gmail.com>
Cc: Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>,
Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>, David Steele
<david@pgmasters.net>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>,
rmt@lists.postgresql.org
Date: 2023-04-30T16:25:20Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On 4/28/23 12:29 PM, Pavel Borisov wrote: > Hi! > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 17:42, Jonathan S. Katz <jkatz@postgresql.org> wrote: >> >> On 4/27/23 8:04 PM, Alexander Korotkov wrote: >>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023 at 2:30 AM Alexander Korotkov <aekorotkov@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Additionally, I think if we start recording role OID, then we need a >>>> full set of management clauses for each individual option ownership. >>>> Otherwise, we would leave this new role OID without necessarily >>>> management facilities. But with them, the whole stuff will look like >>>> awful overengineering. >>> >>> I can also predict a lot of ambiguous cases. For instance, we >>> existing setting can be overridden with a different role OID. If it >>> has been overridden can the overwriter turn it back? >> >> [RMT hat] >> >> While the initial bug has been fixed, given there is discussion on >> reverting 096dd80f3, I've added this as an open item. >> >> I want to study this a bit more before providing my own opinion on revert. > > I see that 096dd80f3 is a lot simpler in implementation than > a0ffa885e, so I agree Alexander's opinion that it's good not to > overengineer what could be done simple. If we patched corner cases of > a0ffa885e before (by 13d838815), why not patch minor things in > 096dd80f3 instead of reverting? > > As I see in [1] there is some demand from users regarding this option. [RMT hat] I read through the original thread[1] to understand the use case and also the concerns, but I need to study [1] and this thread a bit more before I can form an opinion. The argument that there is "demand from users" is certainly one I relate to, but there have been high-demand features in the past (e.g. MERGE, SQL/JSON) that have been reverted and released later due to various concerns around implementation, etc. The main job of the RMT is to ensure a major release is on time and is as stable as possible, which will be a major factor into any decisions if there is lack of community consensus on an open item. Thanks, Jonathan [1] https://postgr.es/m/CAGRrpzawQSbuEedicOLRjQRCmSh6nC3HeMNvnQdBVmPMg7AvQw%40mail.gmail.com
Commits
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Revert "Add USER SET parameter values for pg_db_role_setting"
- b9a7a822723a 16.0 landed
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Fix wrong construct_array_builtin() call in GUCArrayDelete()
- db93e739ac61 16.0 landed
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In hstore_plpython, avoid crashing when return value isn't a mapping.
- df38157d9466 16.0 cited
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Allow granting SET and ALTER SYSTEM privileges on GUC parameters.
- a0ffa885e478 15.0 cited