Re: Hot Standby (v9d)

Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>

From: Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: "jd@commandprompt.com" <jd@commandprompt.com>, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>, Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>, Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2009-01-28T20:07:01Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Put another way: your characterization is no more true than claiming  
there's no "safe" setting for statement_timeout since a large value  
means clog could overflow your disk and your tables could bloat.

(I note we default statement_timeout to off though)

-- 
Greg


On 28 Jan 2009, at 19:56, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:

> "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com> writes:
>> On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 19:27 +0000, Simon Riggs wrote:
>>> On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 18:55 +0000, Gregory Stark wrote:
>>>> I still *strongly* feel the default has to be the
>>>> non-destructive conservative -1.
>>>
>>> I don't. Primarily, we must support high availability. It is much  
>>> better
>>> if we get people saying "I get my queries cancelled" and we say  
>>> RTFM and
>>> change parameter X, than if people say "my failover was 12 hours  
>>> behind
>>> when I needed it to be 10 seconds behind and I lost a $1 million  
>>> because
>>> of downtime of Postgres" and we say RTFM and change parameter X.
>
>> If the person was stupid enough to configure it for such as thing  
>> they
>> deserve to the lose the money.
>
> Well, those unexpectedly cancelled queries could have represented
> critical functionality too.  I think this argument calls the entire
> approach into question.  If there is no safe setting for the parameter
> then we need to find a way to not have the parameter.
>
>            regards, tom lane