Re: Hot Standby (v9d)
Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
From: Greg Stark <greg.stark@enterprisedb.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: "jd@commandprompt.com" <jd@commandprompt.com>, Simon Riggs <simon@2ndQuadrant.com>, Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>, Mark Kirkwood <markir@paradise.net.nz>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2009-01-28T20:07:01Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Put another way: your characterization is no more true than claiming there's no "safe" setting for statement_timeout since a large value means clog could overflow your disk and your tables could bloat. (I note we default statement_timeout to off though) -- Greg On 28 Jan 2009, at 19:56, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > "Joshua D. Drake" <jd@commandprompt.com> writes: >> On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 19:27 +0000, Simon Riggs wrote: >>> On Wed, 2009-01-28 at 18:55 +0000, Gregory Stark wrote: >>>> I still *strongly* feel the default has to be the >>>> non-destructive conservative -1. >>> >>> I don't. Primarily, we must support high availability. It is much >>> better >>> if we get people saying "I get my queries cancelled" and we say >>> RTFM and >>> change parameter X, than if people say "my failover was 12 hours >>> behind >>> when I needed it to be 10 seconds behind and I lost a $1 million >>> because >>> of downtime of Postgres" and we say RTFM and change parameter X. > >> If the person was stupid enough to configure it for such as thing >> they >> deserve to the lose the money. > > Well, those unexpectedly cancelled queries could have represented > critical functionality too. I think this argument calls the entire > approach into question. If there is no safe setting for the parameter > then we need to find a way to not have the parameter. > > regards, tom lane