Re: The Amazon CloudFront distribution is configured to block access from your country.

Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>

From: Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>
To: Israel Brewster <ijbrewster@alaska.edu>
Cc: pgsql-general@lists.postgresql.org
Date: 2021-04-11T15:16:11Z
Lists: pgsql-general
On 4/11/21 10:07 AM, Israel Brewster wrote:
>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 6:52 AM, Ron <ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:ronljohnsonjr@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>> On 4/11/21 9:12 AM, Israel Brewster wrote:
>>>> On Apr 11, 2021, at 1:53 AM, Stephan Knauss <pgsql@stephans-server.de 
>>>> <mailto:pgsql@stephans-server.de>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hello Felix,
>>>>
>>>> On 11.04.2021 02:31, felix.quintgz@yahoo.com 
>>>> <mailto:felix.quintgz@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>> I see no reason why ask elsewhere first, the link for the installer 
>>>>> download is on the Postgresql website, not elsewhere. The most logical 
>>>>> thing to do is ask here first.
>>>>
>>>>> Because it is the Postgresql installer. 
>>>>> https://www.enterprisedb.com/downloads/postgres-postgresql-downloads
>>>>>
>>>> It's unfortunate that your download is blocked. As indicated by others 
>>>> I am also wondering why you ask here for community support.
>>>>
>>>> You pointed to a download link which is controlled by a private company 
>>>> selling Postgresql services:
>>>>
>>>> Read about this company on an independent website: 
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnterpriseDB
>>>>
>>>> If you are looking for the download links of the PostgreSQL project, 
>>>> you can find it here:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.postgresql.org/download/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Based on your feedback, it is NOT the link listed on the PostgreSQL 
>>>> website,
>>>
>>> With all due respect, the link he posted IS the link listed on the 
>>> PostgreSQL website, at least for me. When I go to the link YOU posted, 
>>> and click on MacOS, for example (giving me a URL of 
>>> https://www.postgresql.org/download/macosx/), the FIRST option listed 
>>> there is "Interactive installer by EDB”, which links to 
>>> https://www.enterprisedb.com/downloads/postgres-postgresql-downloads. 
>>> There is no indication on that page that you are linking to a 
>>> third-party package download not supported by PostgreSQL (it does say 
>>> “certified by EDB”, but that doesn’t mean much to a new user, and 
>>> certainly doesn’t indicate a lack of support by PostgreSQL), so it makes 
>>> total sense that someone would think to ask here first when experiencing 
>>> issues.
>>>
>>> If you don’t want to offer assistance, that’s fine, but this link most 
>>> certainly IS the link listed on the PostgreSQL website, at least for 
>>> MacOS. I haven’t checked for other operating systems.
>>>
>>
>> Your comment means that the owners of any web page which links to a third 
>> party product must support that third-party product, just by virtue of 
>> supporting it. That's crazy.
>
> My comment means no such thing. You are absolutely right: that would be 
> crazy. What my comment means is exactly what it says:
>
> 1) The official PostgreSQL download page (for both mac and windows 
> platforms) makes NO MENTION of the FACT that it is linking to an 
> unsupported third-party installer, and
> 2) as such, it makes total sense that someone going to the official 
> PostgreSQL download page and getting an error when clicking on a link on 
> the official PostgreSQL download page would come here first for support.
>
> That is ALL I said, and that is ALL I meant. DO NOT put words in my mouth!

If my software requires zlib, and I link to https://zlib.net/ on my page, 
then your logic absolutely means that I'm responsible for supporting zlib.

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