Re: Standalone synchronous master

On 01/08/2014 02:34 PM, Andres Freund wrote:

> I don't think you've understood synchronous replication. There wouldn't
> be *any* benefit to using it if it worked the way you wish since there
> wouldn't be any additional guarantees. A single reconnect of the
> streaming rep connection, without any permanent outage, would
> potentially lead to data loss if the primary crashed in the wrong
> moment.
> So you'd buy no guarantees with a noticeable loss in performance.
>
> Just use async mode if you want things work like that.

Well no. That isn't what I am saying. Consider the following scenario:

db0->db1 in synchronous mode

The idea is that we know that data on db0 is not written until we know 
for a fact that db1 also has that data. That is great and a guarantee of 
data integrity between the two nodes.

If we have the following:

db0->db1:down

Using the model (as I understand it) that is being discussed we have 
increased our failure rate because the moment db1:down we also lose db0. 
The node db0 may be up but if it isn't going to process transactions it 
is useless. I can tell you that I have exactly 0 customers that would 
want that model because a single node failure would cause a double node 
failure.

All the other stuff with wal_keep_segments is just idea throwing. I 
don't care about that at this point. What I care about specifically is 
that a single node failure regardless of replication mode should not be 
able to (automatically) stop the operation of the master node.

Sincerely,

JD




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