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1. BUG #19101: Ceil on BIGINT could lost precision in decil function

   PG Bug reporting form <noreply@postgresql.org> — 2025-11-02T15:16:09Z

   The following bug has been logged on the website:
   
   Bug reference:      19101
   Logged by:          Jason Smith
   Email address:      dqetool@126.com
   PostgreSQL version: 18.0
   Operating system:   Ubuntu 22.04
   Description:        
   
   I try to store a large number in `BIGINT` and run  `ceil(c1)` command.
   However, the result lost some precision due to calling `decil` function.
   ```sql
   CREATE TABLE t1 (c1 BIGINT);
   INSERT INTO t1 VALUES (4854233034440979799);
   -- dceil
   SELECT ceil(c1) FROM t1; -- {4.854233034440979e+18}
   ```
   The original number is expected to return. In this case, calling
   numeric_ceil function may be proper, and I try the following case.
   ```sql
   CREATE TABLE t1 (c1 DECIMAL(20,0));
   INSERT INTO t1 VALUES (4854233034440979799);
   -- numeric_ceil
   SELECT ceil(c1) FROM t1; -- {4854233034440979799}
   ```
   
   

2. Re: BUG #19101: Ceil on BIGINT could lost precision in decil function

   Laurenz Albe <laurenz.albe@cybertec.at> — 2025-11-02T16:31:29Z

   On Sun, 2025-11-02 at 15:16 +0000, PG Bug reporting form wrote:
   > PostgreSQL version: 18.0
   > 
   > I try to store a large number in `BIGINT` and run  `ceil(c1)` command.
   > However, the result lost some precision due to calling `decil` function.
   > ```sql
   > CREATE TABLE t1 (c1 BIGINT);
   > INSERT INTO t1 VALUES (4854233034440979799);
   > -- dceil
   > SELECT ceil(c1) FROM t1; -- {4.854233034440979e+18}
   > ```
   > The original number is expected to return.
   
   This is not a bug.  There are two ceil() functions:
   
                            List of functions
      Schema   │ Name │ Result data type │ Argument data types │ Type 
   ════════════╪══════╪══════════════════╪═════════════════════╪══════
    pg_catalog │ ceil │ double precision │ double precision    │ func
    pg_catalog │ ceil │ numeric          │ numeric             │ func
   
   There are implicit casts from "bigint" to both "numeric" and "double precision":
   
                            List of casts
      Source type    │   Target type    │ Function │   Implicit?   
   ══════════════════╪══════════════════╪══════════╪═══════════════
    ...
    bigint           │ double precision │ float8   │ yes
    ...
    bigint           │ numeric          │ numeric  │ yes
   
   There are two preferred numeric data types, and "numeric" is none of them:
   
   SELECT typname FROM pg_type WHERE typcategory = 'N' AND typispreferred;
   
    typname 
   ═════════
    oid
    float8   (which is the same as "double precision")
   
   Consequently, rule 4 d of the type conversion rules for function calls
   (https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/typeconv-func.html)
   decrees that the "bigint" be case to "double precision", which explains
   the rounding errors.
   
   Use an explicit type cast:
   
     SELECT ceil(c1::numeric) FROM t1;
   
   Yours,
   Laurenz Albe
   

3. Re: BUG #19101: Ceil on BIGINT could lost precision in decil function

   Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2025-11-02T16:35:26Z

   PG Bug reporting form <noreply@postgresql.org> writes:
   > I try to store a large number in `BIGINT` and run  `ceil(c1)` command.
   > However, the result lost some precision due to calling `decil` function.
   > ```sql
   > CREATE TABLE t1 (c1 BIGINT);
   > INSERT INTO t1 VALUES (4854233034440979799);
   > -- dceil
   > SELECT ceil(c1) FROM t1; -- {4.854233034440979e+18}
   > ```
   
   This is not a bug.  There are two versions of ceil() and you're
   invoking the wrong one.  You'd need to explicitly cast the
   argument to numeric if you want ceil(numeric) to be used.
   
   In this context it's a bit unfortunate that the parser's type
   preference rules [1] prefer float8 to numeric.  But we're pretty
   much stuck with that behavior because (a) the SQL standard
   says so [2], and (b) even if it didn't, we have a couple of
   decades of history to be backwards compatible with.
   
   			regards, tom lane
   
   [1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/typeconv.html
   
   [2] Well, what it really says is that expressions that mix
   exact and inexact numeric types produce inexact results.
   We interpret that as meaning that float8 is the preferred
   type in the numeric category, so it wins ambiguous cases.
   
   
   
   

4. Re:Re: BUG #19101: Ceil on BIGINT could lost precision in decil function

   dqetool <dqetool@126.com> — 2025-11-03T02:48:34Z

   Thanks for the quick response. I try to add an explicit type conversion to avoid this problem.
   At 2025-11-03 00:35:26, "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
   >PG Bug reporting form <noreply@postgresql.org> writes:
   >> I try to store a large number in `BIGINT` and run  `ceil(c1)` command.
   >> However, the result lost some precision due to calling `decil` function.
   >> ```sql
   >> CREATE TABLE t1 (c1 BIGINT);
   >> INSERT INTO t1 VALUES (4854233034440979799);
   >> -- dceil
   >> SELECT ceil(c1) FROM t1; -- {4.854233034440979e+18}
   >> ```
   >
   >This is not a bug.  There are two versions of ceil() and you're
   >invoking the wrong one.  You'd need to explicitly cast the
   >argument to numeric if you want ceil(numeric) to be used.
   >
   >In this context it's a bit unfortunate that the parser's type
   >preference rules [1] prefer float8 to numeric.  But we're pretty
   >much stuck with that behavior because (a) the SQL standard
   >says so [2], and (b) even if it didn't, we have a couple of
   >decades of history to be backwards compatible with.
   >
   >			regards, tom lane
   >
   >[1] https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/typeconv.html
   >
   >[2] Well, what it really says is that expressions that mix
   >exact and inexact numeric types produce inexact results.
   >We interpret that as meaning that float8 is the preferred
   >type in the numeric category, so it wins ambiguous cases.