Re: Performance problems testing with Spamassassin 3.1.0

John Arbash Meinel <john@arbash-meinel.com>

From: John A Meinel <john@arbash-meinel.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Matthew Schumacher <matt.s@aptalaska.net>, pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Date: 2005-08-04T15:08:09Z
Lists: pgsql-performance

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Tom Lane wrote:
> Matthew Schumacher <matt.s@aptalaska.net> writes:
>
>>  for i in array_lower(intokenary, 1) .. array_upper(intokenary, 1)
>>  LOOP
>>    _token := intokenary[i];
>>    INSERT INTO bayes_token_tmp VALUES (_token);
>>  END LOOP;
>
>
>>  UPDATE
>>    bayes_token
>>  SET
>>    spam_count = greatest_int(spam_count + inspam_count, 0),
>>    ham_count = greatest_int(ham_count + inham_count , 0),
>>    atime = greatest_int(atime, 1000)
>>  WHERE
>>    id = inuserid
>>  AND
>>    (token) IN (SELECT intoken FROM bayes_token_tmp);
>
>
> I don't really see why you think that this path is going to lead to
> better performance than where you were before.  Manipulation of the
> temp table is never going to be free, and IN (sub-select) is always
> inherently not fast, and NOT IN (sub-select) is always inherently
> awful.  Throwing a pile of simple queries at the problem is not
> necessarily the wrong way ... especially when you are doing it in
> plpgsql, because you've already eliminated the overhead of network
> round trips and repeated planning of the queries.

So for an IN (sub-select), does it actually pull all of the rows from
the other table, or is the planner smart enough to stop once it finds
something?

Is IN (sub-select) about the same as EXISTS (sub-select WHERE x=y)?

What about NOT IN (sub-select) versus NOT EXISTS (sub-select WHERE x=y)

I would guess that the EXISTS/NOT EXISTS would be faster, though it
probably would necessitate using a nested loop (at least that seems to
be the way the query is written).

I did some tests on a database with 800k rows, versus a temp table with
2k rows. I did one sequential test (1-2000, with 66 rows missing), and
one sparse test (1-200, 100000-100200, 200000-200200, ... with 658 rows
missing).

If found that NOT IN did indeed have to load the whole table. IN was
smart enough to do a nested loop.
EXISTS and NOT EXISTS did a sequential scan on my temp table, with a
SubPlan filter (which looks a whole lot like a Nested Loop).

What I found was that IN performed about the same as EXISTS (since they
are both effectively doing a nested loop), but that NOT IN took 4,000ms
while NOT EXISTS was the same speed as EXISTS at around 166ms.

Anyway, so it does seem like NOT IN is not a good choice, but IN seems
to be equivalent to EXISTS, and NOT EXISTS is also very fast.

Is this generally true, or did I just get lucky on my data?

John
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