Re: random() (was Re: New GUC to sample log queries)
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>,
Adrien Nayrat <adrien.nayrat@anayrat.info>,
Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>,
Dmitry Dolgov <9erthalion6@gmail.com>,
Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>,
vik.fearing@2ndquadrant.com, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>,
David Rowley <david.rowley@2ndquadrant.com>,
Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2018-12-27T01:46:25Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> writes: > On Wed, Dec 26, 2018 at 01:45:00PM -0500, Tom Lane wrote: >> A quick grep says that there's a dozen or so callers, so this patch >> certainly isn't the only offender ... but should we make an effort >> to convert them all to use, say, pg_erand48()? I think all the >> existing callers could happily share a process-wide random state, >> so we could make a wrapper that's no harder to use than random(). > Another possibility would be to extend a bit more the use of > pg_strong_random(), though it is designed to really be used in cases > like authentication where the random bytes are strong for > cryptography. pg_erand48() would be a good step forward. I think pg_strong_random is overkill, and overly expensive, for most if not all of the existing callers of random(). We already changed the ones where it's important to be strong ... One thing I was wondering is if we should try to enforce a policy like this by putting, say, #define random() pg_random() into port.h or so. That would have the advantages of not having to touch any existing calls and not having to worry too much about future patches breaking the policy. On the other hand, it's conceivable that third-party extensions might get annoyed with us for hijacking a libc function. Thoughts? regards, tom lane
Commits
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Use pg_strong_random() to select each server process's random seed.
- 4203842a1cd0 12.0 landed
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Use a separate random seed for SQL random()/setseed() functions.
- 6645ad6bdd81 12.0 landed
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Marginal performance hacking in erand48.c.
- 6b9bba2df8d4 12.0 landed
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Fix latent problem with pg_jrand48().
- e09046641114 12.0 landed
- f256995e33d2 10.7 landed
- d58e01f8abe2 11.2 landed
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Silence compiler warning
- 9dc122585551 12.0 landed
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Add log_statement_sample_rate parameter
- 88bdbd3f7460 12.0 landed