Re: leaky views, yet again

Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>

From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@kaigai.gr.jp>, KaiGai Kohei <kaigai@ak.jp.nec.com>, Itagaki Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@gmail.com>, Heikki Linnakangas <heikki.linnakangas@enterprisedb.com>, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Date: 2010-10-05T16:27:12Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
> On Tue, Oct 5, 2010 at 10:56 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
>> Personally I think this is a dead end that we shouldn't be wasting
>> any more time on.

> But you haven't proposed a reasonable alternative.

Tom: "This problem is insoluble."
Robert: "You can't claim that without offering a solution."

Sorry ...

> Option #1: Remove all mention from the documentation of using views
> for security purposes.  Don't allow views to have explicit permissions
> attached to them; they are merely shorthand for a SELECT, for which
> you either do or do not have privileges.

The SQL standard requires us to attach permissions to views.  The
standard makes no claims whatsoever about how leak-proof views should
be; it only says that you can't call a view without the appropriate
permissions.

I do think it's reasonable for the docs to point out that views that do
row-filtering should not be presumed to be absolutely bulletproof.
That doesn't make permissions on them useless, so you're attacking a
straw man.

			regards, tom lane