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Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation)
Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 1998-10-18T16:04:49Z
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > What if someone wants the rows from 500 to the end. Should we allow > the syntax to be: > SELECT ... [LIMIT count] [OFFSET offset] > LIMIT and OFFSET are independent. I like that syntax the best, but remember we are not inventing in a green field here. Isn't this a feature that already exists in other DBMs? We should probably copy their syntax, unless it's truly spectacularly awful... regards, tom lane
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Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation)
Oleg Bartunov <oleg@sai.msu.su> — 1998-10-18T17:45:24Z
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Tom Lane wrote: > Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 12:04:49 -0400 > From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> > To: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> > Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgreSQL.org > Subject: Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation) > > Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > > What if someone wants the rows from 500 to the end. Should we allow > > the syntax to be: > > SELECT ... [LIMIT count] [OFFSET offset] > > LIMIT and OFFSET are independent. > > I like that syntax the best, but remember we are not inventing in > a green field here. Isn't this a feature that already exists in > other DBMs? We should probably copy their syntax, unless it's > truly spectacularly awful... > > regards, tom lane > Mysql uses LIMIT [offset,] rows >From documentation: LIMIT takes one or two numeric arguments. A single argument represents the maximum number of rows to return in a result. If two arguments are given the first argument is the offset to the first row to return, while the second is the maximum number of rows to return in the result. What would be nice if somehow total number of rows could be returned. This is often needed for altavista-like application. Of course, I can do select count(*) from sometable ... LIMIT offset, rows and then select ... from sometable ... LIMIT offset, rows but this seems not elegant solution. Regards, Oleg _____________________________________________________________ Oleg Bartunov, sci.researcher, hostmaster of AstroNet, Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University (Russia) Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(095)939-16-83, +007(095)939-23-83 -
Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation)
Jan Wieck <jwieck@debis.com> — 1998-10-18T19:29:43Z
Oleg Bartunov wrote: > On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > > > What if someone wants the rows from 500 to the end. Should we allow > > > the syntax to be: > > > SELECT ... [LIMIT count] [OFFSET offset] > > > LIMIT and OFFSET are independent. > > > > I like that syntax the best, but remember we are not inventing in > > a green field here. Isn't this a feature that already exists in > > other DBMs? We should probably copy their syntax, unless it's > > truly spectacularly awful... > > > > regards, tom lane > > > > Mysql uses LIMIT [offset,] rows > >From documentation: > > LIMIT takes one or two numeric arguments. A single argument > represents the maximum number of rows to return in a result. If two > arguments are given the first argument is the offset to the first row to > return, while the second is the maximum number of rows to return in the > result. Simple change, just flip them in gram.y. And for the 500 to end: SELECT ... LIMIT 500, 0 (after flipped) The 0 has the same meaning as ALL. And that could also be added to the parser easily so one can say SELECT ... LIMIT 500, ALL too. > > What would be nice if somehow total number of rows could be returned. > This is often needed for altavista-like application. > Of course, I can do > select count(*) from sometable ... LIMIT offset, rows > and then > select ... from sometable ... LIMIT offset, rows > but this seems not elegant solution. Absolutely makes no sense for me. As said in the other posting, aggregates do the counting scan in a deeper level and thus cannot get limited. So if you invoke an aggregate, the whole scan is always done. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #======================================== jwieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) # -
Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation)
Terry Mackintosh <terry@terrym.com> — 1998-10-18T19:58:57Z
On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > > What if someone wants the rows from 500 to the end. Should we allow > > the syntax to be: > > SELECT ... [LIMIT count] [OFFSET offset] > > LIMIT and OFFSET are independent. > > I like that syntax the best, but remember we are not inventing in > a green field here. Isn't this a feature that already exists in > other DBMs? We should probably copy their syntax, unless it's > truly spectacularly awful... > > regards, tom lane None that I have used (VFP, M$ SQL Server) that had 'LIMIT', had 'OFFSET'. So it would seem that the very idea of OFFSET is to break with what others are doing. I too like the above syntax. Why mimic, when you can do better? Go for it! Just my vote, have a great day Terry Mackintosh <terry@terrym.com> http://www.terrym.com sysadmin/owner Please! No MIME encoded or HTML mail, unless needed. Proudly powered by R H Linux 4.2, Apache 1.3, PHP 3, PostgreSQL 6.3 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Success Is A Choice ... book by Rick Patino, get it, read it!
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CVS ...
Egon Schmid <eschmid@delos.stuttgart.netsurf.de> — 1998-10-18T20:00:39Z
Hi folks, Fatal error, aborting. : no such user -Egon
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Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation)
Jan Wieck <jwieck@debis.com> — 1998-10-18T20:05:31Z
> > On Sun, 18 Oct 1998, Tom Lane wrote: > > > Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > > > What if someone wants the rows from 500 to the end. Should we allow > > > the syntax to be: > > > SELECT ... [LIMIT count] [OFFSET offset] > > > LIMIT and OFFSET are independent. > > > > I like that syntax the best, but remember we are not inventing in > > a green field here. Isn't this a feature that already exists in > > other DBMs? We should probably copy their syntax, unless it's > > truly spectacularly awful... > > > > regards, tom lane > > None that I have used (VFP, M$ SQL Server) that had 'LIMIT', had 'OFFSET'. > So it would seem that the very idea of OFFSET is to break with what others > are doing. > > I too like the above syntax. > Why mimic, when you can do better? Go for it! > We have a powerful parser. So we can provide ... [ LIMIT { rows | ALL } ] [ OFFSET skip ] or ... [ LIMIT [ skip , ] { rows | ALL } ] at the same time. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #======================================== jwieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) # -
Re: [HACKERS] SELECT ... LIMIT (trial implementation)
Jan Wieck <jwieck@debis.com> — 1998-10-18T20:44:15Z
> We have a powerful parser. So we can provide > [...] This version now accepts all of the following ... [ LIMIT rows ] [ OFFSET skip ] ... [ OFFSET skip ] [ LIMIT rows ] ... [ LIMIT [ skip , ] rows ] rows can be a positive integer constant greater that 0, a $n parameter (in SPI_prepare()) or the keyword ALL. 0 isn't accepted as constant to force ALL in that case making clear that this is wanted. In the parameter version the integer value 0 still is used to mean ALL. skip can be a positive integer constant greater or equal to 0 or a $n parameter for SPI_prepare. If any of these syntaxes is used in SPI_prepare()'d plans, the given tcount argument for SPI_execp() is ignored and the plan or parameter values are used. Anyone happy now? 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