Re: [Fwd: Re: [PATCHES] 64-bit CommandIds]
Hans-Jürgen Schönig <hs@cybertec.at>
From: Hans-Juergen Schoenig <hs@cybertec.at>
To: Gregory Stark <stark@enterprisedb.com>
Cc: "Decibel!" <decibel@decibel.org>, "Heikki Linnakangas" <heikki@enterprisedb.com>, "Zoltan Boszormenyi" <zb@cybertec.at>, "Bruce Momjian" <bruce@momjian.us>, "PG Hackers" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2008-03-21T06:06:30Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
> > "Decibel!" <decibel@decibel.org> writes: > >> If we're going to make this a ./configure option, ISTM we should >> do the same >> with XID size as well. I know there are high-velocity databases >> that could use >> that. > > Keep in mind we just changed things so that read-only transactions > don't > consume xids. That means you would have to be actually modifying 2- > billion > records before wrap-around becomes an issue. > > If you're modifying 2-billion records that quickly presumably > you're going to > have other pressing reasons to run vacuum aside from xid freezing... > > Also, consider that you're suggesting increasing the per-tuple > overhead from > 24 bytes to, if my arithmetic is right, 40 bytes. > > So really you would need, say, a system with enough i/o bandwidth > to handle > 2-billion updates or inserts per day and with enough spare i/o > bandwidth that > another 16-bytes on every one of those updates is ok, but without > the ability > to run vacuum. > > Also, we still have hope that the visibility map info will make > running vacuum > even less of an imposition. > > All that said I don't really see much reason not to make it an > option. I just > don't think anyone really needs it. In 5-10 years though... > Doing this for XIDs is pretty useless this days. It is only targeted for command ids which are consumed heavily by stored procedure languages. It happens once on a while that a complex business logic procedure runs out of command ids inside a transaction. the idea is to give users a chance to avoid that. touching XIDs does not make sense to me at all. many thanks, hans -- Cybertec Schönig & Schönig GmbH PostgreSQL Solutions and Support Gröhrmühlgasse 26, 2700 Wiener Neustadt Tel: +43/1/205 10 35 / 340 www.postgresql.at, www.cybertec.at