Re: Adding REPACK [concurrently]

Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>

From: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
To: Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Cc: "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda.hayato@fujitsu.com>, Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>, Srinath Reddy Sadipiralla <srinath2133@gmail.com>, Mihail Nikalayeu <mihailnikalayeu@gmail.com>, Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>, Pg Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>, Robert Treat <rob@xzilla.net>
Date: 2026-04-07T21:38:11Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers

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On 2026-Apr-06, Amit Kapila wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 4, 2026 at 3:49 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:

> > I suppose it's unfortunate that autovacuum launcher is going to try
> > again and again to get workers to process that table, and they are going
> > to be killed over and over.  Maybe it would be better to have autovac
> > ignore those tables.
> 
> I feel that would be better at least when we know that the repack
> concurrently command is already in progress. It can help avoid
> launching workers again and again, especially when repack concurrently
> command is going to take a long time.

Okay.  I implemented that now, and here it is.  0001 is as before; 0002
creates shared memory for repack and has autovacuum recheck each table
there before processing it.

Having implemented it, I'm not sure the resulting behavior is all that
different from before.  I mean, the only difference is that the worker
is going to see the table listed in repack shmem and skip it; as opposed
to trying to lock it and be terminated by the deadlock detector one
second later, at which point it continues with the next table on its
list.  So it's some wasted work to set up the autovac work, but nothing
more.

However, there's also the point Andres just made in [1] which basically
kills this idea.  So I'm withdrawing this proposal.  Still, having
written it, I thought it'd be better to get it archived.

[1] https://postgr.es/m/4n4q3preb3lgyhpzstebhux7b2aojhsw7gik4ivaznyggiezrs@lrznutssxlh2

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Commits

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  1. Allow old WAL recycling during REPACK CONCURRENTLY

  2. Advance restart_lsn more eagerly in LogicalConfirmReceivedLocation

  3. Remove unnecessary signal handler change

  4. Improve REPACK (CONCURRENTLY) error messages some more

  5. Revert "Allow logical replication snapshots to be database-specific"

  6. Move REPACK (CONCURRENTLY) test out of stock regression tests

  7. REPACK: do not require REPLICATION or LOGIN

  8. Add missing initialization

  9. Simplify declaration of memcpy target

  10. Reserve replication slots specifically for REPACK

  11. doc: Add an example of REPACK (CONCURRENTLY)

  12. Allow logical replication snapshots to be database-specific

  13. Avoid different-size pointer-to-integer cast

  14. Fix valgrind failure

  15. Add CONCURRENTLY option to REPACK

  16. Rename cluster.c to repack.c (and corresponding .h)

  17. Allow index_create to suppress index_build progress reporting

  18. Make index_concurrently_create_copy more general

  19. Document the 'command' column of pg_stat_progress_repack

  20. Introduce the REPACK command

  21. Toggle logical decoding dynamically based on logical slot presence.

  22. Split vacuumdb to create vacuuming.c/h

  23. Remove ReorderBufferTupleBuf structure.

  24. Revert changes to CONCURRENTLY that "sped up" Xmin advance

  25. VACUUM: ignore indexing operations with CONCURRENTLY