Re: AIO v2.5
Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
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aio: Fix assertion, clarify README
- 7b98c5536818 18.0 landed
- d3f97fd1dda3 19 (unreleased) landed
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aio: Fix reference to outdated name
- f20a347e1a61 19 (unreleased) landed
- 95163cbe111c 18.0 landed
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aio: Fix possible state confusions due to interrupt processing
- acad909321a4 18.0 landed
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aio: Improve debug logging around waiting for IOs
- 039bfc457e43 18.0 landed
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aio: Fix crash potential for pg_aios views due to late state update
- 0d9114b7040d 18.0 landed
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Increase BAS_BULKREAD based on effective_io_concurrency
- 15f0cb26b530 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Add Valgrind buffer access instrumentation
- 8ab4241b9f4f 18.0 landed
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aio: Make AIO more compatible with valgrind
- 8e293e689bab 18.0 landed
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aio: Avoid spurious coverity warning
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tests: Fix incompatibility of test_aio with *_FORCE_RELEASE
- a6285b150ad3 18.0 landed
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tests: Cope with WARNINGs during failed CREATE DB on windows
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aio: Add errcontext for processing I/Os for another backend
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aio: Add README.md explaining higher level design
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aio: Minor comment improvements
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aio: Add test_aio module
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aio: Add pg_aios view
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docs: Add acronym and glossary entries for I/O and AIO
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Enable IO concurrency on all systems
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read_stream: Introduce and use optional batchmode support
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docs: Reframe track_io_timing related docs as wait time
- b27f8637ea70 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Use AIO in StartReadBuffers()
- 12ce89fd0708 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Implement AIO read support
- 047cba7fa0f8 18.0 landed
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aio: Add WARNING result status
- ef64fe26bad9 18.0 landed
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Let caller of PageIsVerified() control ignore_checksum_failure
- d445990adc41 18.0 landed
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pgstat: Allow checksum errors to be reported in critical sections
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Add errhint_internal()
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localbuf: Track pincount in BufferDesc as well
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aio, bufmgr: Comment fixes/improvements
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Fix mis-attribution of checksum failure stats to the wrong database
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aio: Implement support for reads in smgr/md/fd
- 50cb7505b301 18.0 landed
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aio: Add io_method=io_uring
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aio: Add liburing dependency
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aio: Rename pgaio_io_prep_* to pgaio_io_start_*
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aio: Pass result of local callbacks to ->report_return
- f321ec237a54 18.0 landed
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aio: Be more paranoid about interrupts
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Redefine max_files_per_process to control additionally opened files
- adb5f85fa5a0 18.0 landed
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aio: Change prefix of PgAioResultStatus values to PGAIO_RS_
- ca3067cc573d 18.0 landed
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bufmgr: Improve stats when a buffer is read in concurrently
- 202b12774d09 18.0 landed
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aio: Add io_method=worker
- 247ce06b883d 18.0 landed
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aio: Infrastructure for io_method=worker
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aio: Add core asynchronous I/O infrastructure
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aio: Basic subsystem initialization
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tests: Expand temp table tests to some pin related matters
- 1a22a8a0f131 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Introduce FlushLocalBuffer()
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localbuf: Introduce TerminateLocalBufferIO()
- dd6f2618f681 18.0 landed
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localbuf: Fix dangerous coding pattern in GetLocalVictimBuffer()
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localbuf: Introduce StartLocalBufferIO()
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localbuf: Introduce InvalidateLocalBuffer()
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Allow lwlocks to be disowned
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Make jsonb casts to scalar types translate JSON null to SQL NULL.
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bufmgr/smgr: Don't cross segment boundaries in StartReadBuffers()
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Use aux process resource owner in walsender
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bufmgr: Return early in ScheduleBufferTagForWriteback() if fsync=off
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On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 04:58:11PM -0400, Andres Freund wrote: > I now wrote some tests. And I both regret doing so (because it found problems, > which would have been apparent long ago, if the feature had come with *any* > tests, if I had gone the same way I could have just pushed stuff) and am glad > I did (because I dislike pushing broken stuff). > > I have to admit, I was tempted to just ignore this issue and just not say > anything about tests for checksum failures anymore. I don't blame you. > 3) We can't pgstat_report_checksum_failure() during the completion callback, > as it *sometimes* allocates memory > > Aside from the allocation-in-critical-section asserts, I think this is > *extremely* unlikely to actually cause a problem in practice. But we don't > want to rely on that, obviously. > Addressing 3) is not at all trivial. Here's what I've thought of so far: > > > Approach I) > Unfortunately that fails because to access the shared memory with the stats > data we need to do dsa_get_address() > Approach II) > > Don't report the error in the completion callback. The obvious place would be > to do it where we we'll raise the warning/error in the issuing process. The > big disadvantage is that that that could lead to under-counting checksum > errors: > > a) A read stream does 2+ concurrent reads for the same relation, and more than > one encounters checksum errors. When processing the results for the first > failed read, we raise an error and thus won't process the results of the > second+ reads with errors. > > b) A read is started asynchronously, but before the backend gets around to > processing the result of the IO, it errors out during that other work > (possibly due to a cancellation). Because the backend never looked at the > results of the IOs, the checksum errors don't get accounted for. > > b) doesn't overly bother me, but a) seems problematic. While neither are great, I could live with both. I guess I'm optimistic that clusters experiencing checksum failures won't lose enough reports to these loss sources to make the difference in whether monitoring catches them. In other words, a cluster will report N failures without these losses and N-K after these losses. If N is large enough for relevant monitoring to flag the cluster appropriately, N-K will also be large enough. > Approach III) > > Accumulate checksum errors in two backend local variables (one for database > specific errors, one for errors on shared relations), which will be flushed by > the backend that issued IO during the next pgstat_report_start(). > > Two disadvantages: > > - Accumulation of errors will be delayed until the next > pgstat_report_start(). That seems acceptable, after all we do so far a lot > of other stats. Yep, acceptable. > - We need to register a local callback for shared buffer reads, which don't > need them today . That's a small bit of added overhead. It's a shame to do > so for counters that approximately never get incremented. Fair concern. An idea is to let the complete_shared callback change the callback list associated with the IO, so it could change PGAIO_HCB_SHARED_BUFFER_READV to PGAIO_HCB_SHARED_BUFFER_READV_SLOW. The latter would differ from the former only in having the extra local callback. Could that help? I think the only overhead is using more PGAIO_HCB numbers. We currently reserve 256 (uint8), but one could imagine trying to pack into fewer bits. That said, this wouldn't paint us into a corner. We could change the approach later. pgaio_io_call_complete_local() starts a critical section. Is that a problem for this approach? > Approach IV): > > Embracy piercing abstractions / generic infrastructure and put two atomic > variables (one for shared one for the backend's database) in some > backend-specific shared memory (e.g. the backend's PgAioBackend or PGPROC) and > update that in the completion callback. Flush that variable to the shared > stats in pgstat_report_start() or such. I could live with that. I feel better about Approach III currently, though. Overall, I'm feeling best about III long-term, but II may be the right tactical choice. > Does anybody have better ideas? I think no, but here are some ideas I tossed around: - Like your Approach III, but have the completing process store the count locally and flush it, instead of the staging process doing so. Would need more than 2 slots, but we could have a fixed number of slots and just discard any reports that arrive with all slots full. Reporting checksum failures in, say, 8 databases in quick succession probably tells the DBA there's "enough corruption to start worrying". Missing the 9th database would be okay. - Pre-warm the memory allocations and DSAs we could possibly need, so we can report those stats in critical sections, from the completing process. Bad since there's an entry per database, hence no reasonable limit on how much memory a process might need to pre-warm. We could even end up completing an IO for a database that didn't exist on entry to our critical section. - Skip the checksum pgstats if we're completing in a critical section. Doesn't work since we _always_ make a critical section to complete I/O. This email isn't as well-baked as I like, but the alternative was delaying it 24-48h depending on how other duties go over those hours. My v2.13 review is still in-progress, too.