Re: LISTEN/NOTIFY bug: VACUUM sets frozenxid past a xid in async queue
Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de>
From: Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@kurilemu.de>
To: Alexandra Wang <alexandra.wang.oss@gmail.com>
Cc: Daniil Davydov <3danissimo@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2025-08-06T10:44:13Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Commits
Same data as JSON:
GET /api/v1/messages/:b64id/commits
the thread's linked commits as JSON, with link sources.
API reference →
-
Clear 'xid' in dummy async notify entries written to fill up pages
- 84f1bf4afa5e 14.21 landed
- 21a9014cf00a 15.16 landed
- 0e8eaa2181d4 16.12 landed
- d80d5f099502 17.8 landed
- 82fa6b78dba1 18.2 landed
- 0bdc777e8007 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Fix remaining race condition with CLOG truncation and LISTEN/NOTIFY
- c2e58c0711fe 14.21 landed
- 0c862646cf2a 15.16 landed
- 44e8c60be66c 16.12 landed
- c2682810ab7d 17.8 landed
- 7b069a1876e4 18.2 landed
- 797e9ea6e54b 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Fix bug where we truncated CLOG that was still needed by LISTEN/NOTIFY
- eba917d360e7 14.21 landed
- 1a469d7b5b7d 15.16 landed
- 053e1868b7ee 16.12 landed
- d02c03ddc5e3 17.8 landed
- 321ec54625fd 18.2 landed
- 8eeb4a0f7c06 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Escalate ERRORs during async notify processing to FATAL
- 7cb05dd2d198 14.21 landed
- b1da37de21d4 15.16 landed
- c1a5bde003b8 16.12 landed
- b821c92920f0 17.8 landed
- aab4a84bb070 18.2 landed
- 1b4699090eaf 19 (unreleased) landed
-
Limit the size of TID lists during parallel GIN build
- c98dffcb7c70 19 (unreleased) cited
On 2025-Aug-05, Alexandra Wang wrote: > I'm bringing up a bug that was reported multiple times [1][2][3] in > the bugs list here, for a broader audience. > > The issue is that an ERROR like the one below occurs when trying to > register any listener in the database. > > test=# listen c21; > ERROR: 58P01: could not access status of transaction 14279685 > DETAIL: Could not open file "pg_xact/000D": No such file or directory. > LOCATION: SlruReportIOError, slru.c:1087 Oh, interesting problem. Many thanks for the excellent write-up. > My questions: > > 1. Is it acceptable to drop notifications from the async queue if > there are no active listeners? There might still be notifications that > haven’t been read by any previous listener. I'm somewhat wary of this idea -- could these inactive listeners become active later and expect to be able to read their notifies? > 2. If the answer to 1 is no, how can we teach VACUUM to respect the > minimum xid stored in all AsyncQueueEntries? Maybe we can have AsyncQueueAdvanceTail return the oldest XID of listeners, and back off the pg_clog truncation based on that. This could be done by having a new boolean argument that says to look up the XID from the PGPROC using BackendPidGetProc(QUEUE_BACKEND_PID) (which would only be passed true by vac_update_datfrozenxid(), to avoid overhead by other callers), then collect the oldest of those and return it. This does create the problem that an inactive listener could cause the XID counter to stay far in the past. Maybe we could try to avoid this by adding more signalling (e.g, AsyncQueueAdvanceTail() itself could send PROCSIG_NOTIFY_INTERRUPT signal?), and terminating backends that are way overdue on reading notifies. I'm not sure if this is really needed or useful; consider a backend stuck on SIGSTOP (debugger or whatever): it will just sit there forever. -- Álvaro Herrera PostgreSQL Developer — https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/