Re: BUG: Postgres 14 + vacuum_defer_cleanup_age + FOR UPDATE + UPDATE

Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>

From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
To: Matthias van de Meent <boekewurm+postgres@gmail.com>
Cc: Michail Nikolaev <michail.nikolaev@gmail.com>, Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@gmail.com>, Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Mark Dilger <mark.dilger@enterprisedb.com>
Date: 2023-01-10T19:14:49Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Hi,

On 2023-01-10 15:03:42 +0100, Matthias van de Meent wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jan 2023 at 20:34, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> wrote:
> > On 2023-01-09 17:50:10 +0100, Matthias van de Meent wrote:
> > > Wouldn't it be enough to only fix the constructions in
> > > FullXidRelativeTo() and widen_snapshot_xid() (as attached, $topic does
> > > not occur with the patch), and (optionally) bump the first XID
> > > available for any cluster to (FirstNormalXid + 1) to retain the 'older
> > > than any running transaction' property?
> >
> > It's not too hard to fix in individual places, but I suspect that we'll
> > introduce the bug in future places without some more fundamental protection.
> >
> > Locally I fixed it by clamping vacuum_defer_cleanup_age to a reasonable value
> > in ComputeXidHorizons() and GetSnapshotData().
> 
> I don't think that clamping the value with oldestXid (as seen in patch
> 0001, in GetSnapshotData) is right.

I agree that using oldestXid to clamp is problematic.


> It would clamp the value relative to the oldest frozen xid of all
> databases, which can be millions of transactions behind oldestXmin,
> and thus severely skew the amount of transaction's changes you keep on
> disk (that is, until oldestXid moves past 1000_000).

What precisely do you mean with "skew" here? Do you just mean that it'd take a
long time until vacuum_defer_cleanup_age takes effect? Somehow it sounds like
you might mean more than that?


I'm tempted to go with reinterpreting 64bit xids as signed. Except that it
seems like a mighty invasive change to backpatch.


Greetings,

Andres Freund



Commits

  1. Fix incorrect TAP test ordering

  2. pg_amcheck: Minor test speedups

  3. amcheck: Fix FullTransactionIdFromXidAndCtx() for xids before epoch 0

  4. amcheck: Fix ordering bug in update_cached_xid_range()

  5. Fix corruption due to vacuum_defer_cleanup_age underflowing 64bit xids

  6. Add hardening to catch invalid TIDs in indexes.

  7. Use full 64-bit XID for checking if a deleted GiST page is old enough.

  8. Avoid early reuse of btree pages, causing incorrect query results.