Re: [PoC] pg_upgrade: allow to upgrade publisher node
Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
From: Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: "Hayato Kuroda (Fujitsu)" <kuroda.hayato@fujitsu.com>, PostgreSQL Hackers <pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org>, Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>
Date: 2023-05-02T11:43:53Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Hi, On Tue, May 02, 2023 at 12:55:18PM +0200, Alvaro Herrera wrote: > On 2023-Apr-07, Julien Rouhaud wrote: > > > That being said, I have a hard time believing that we could actually preserve > > physical replication slots. I don't think that pg_upgrade final state is fully > > reproducible: not all object oids are preserved, and the various pg_restore > > are run in parallel so you're very likely to end up with small physical > > differences that would be incompatible with physical replication. Even if we > > could make it totally reproducible, it would probably be at the cost of making > > pg_upgrade orders of magnitude slower. And since many people are already > > complaining that it's too slow, that doesn't seem like something we would want. > > A point on preserving physical replication slots: because we change WAL > format from one major version to the next (adding new messages or > changing format for other messages), we can't currently rely on physical > slots working across different major versions. I don't think anyone suggested to do physical replication over different major versions. My understanding was that it would be used to pg_upgrade a "physical cluster" (e.g. a primary and physical standby server) at the same time, and then simply starting them up again would lead to a working physical replication on the new version. I guess one could try to keep using the slots for other needs (PITR backup with pg_receivewal or something similar), and then you would indeed have to be aware that you won't be able to do anything with the new WAL records until you do a fresh base backup, but that's a problem that you can already face after a normal pg_upgrade (although in most cases it's probably quite obvious for now as the timeline isn't preserved).
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Fix issues in binary_upgrade_logical_slot_has_caught_up().
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Fix a random failure in 003_logical_slots.pl.
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Fix a test in 003_logical_slots.
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Fix uninitialized slot array access during the upgrade.
- a7db71ed2787 17.0 landed
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Fix the test 003_logical_slots.
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Commit b195e6d482 forgot to update meson.build.
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Use shorter file names in the upgrade logical slots test.
- b195e6d482b8 17.0 landed
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Migrate logical slots to the new node during an upgrade.
- 29d0a77fa660 17.0 landed
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Flush logical slots to disk during a shutdown checkpoint if required.
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Prevent possibility of panics during shutdown checkpoint.
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