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  1. Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2021-08-13T13:23:03Z

    Hello,
    
    The logging system already captures a lot of information in the ErrorData. But 
    at present there is no way for a log message authors to include more metadata 
    about the log outside of the log message itself. For example, including the 
    extension name which can be useful for filtering / dispatching log messages.
    This can be done in the log message itself, but that requires specialized 
    parsing in the log output. 
    
    Even though among the available loggers in core, only the csv logger would be 
    able to make sense of it, I feel it would be beneficial to add a tagging system 
    to logs, by adding different (tag, value) combinations to a log entry, with an 
    API similar to what we do for other ErrorData fields:
    
    ereport(NOTICE,
     (errmsg("My log message")),
     (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
     (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    );
    
    Please find attached a very small POC patch to better demonstrate what I 
    propose.  
    
    Third party logging hooks could then exploit those values to output them 
    correctly. For example the json loggger written by Michael Paquier here: 
    https://github.com/michaelpq/pg_plugins/tree/master/jsonlog, or  the 
    seeminlgy-abandonned journald hook here: https://github.com/intgr/pg_journal 
    could add those information in a structured way.
    
    I think the pgaudit extension (or something similar) could also make good use 
    of such a feature instead of dumping a CSV entry in the log file. 
    
    As for Postgres own log messages, I'm sure we could find practical use cases 
    for tagging messages like this.
    
    On a related note, the only structured logger we have in-core is the CSV 
    logger. Many users nowadays end up feeding the logs to journald either by 
    capturing the stderr output with systemd, or by having syslog implemented by 
    journald itself. Would there be any interest in having native journald support 
    as a logging_destination ?
    
    Best regards,
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  2. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> — 2021-08-19T13:04:30Z

    On 2021-Aug-13, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    
    > ereport(NOTICE,
    >  (errmsg("My log message")),
    >  (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
    >  (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    > );
    
    Interesting idea.   I agree this would be useful.
    
    > Please find attached a very small POC patch to better demonstrate what I 
    > propose.  
    
    Seems like a good start.  I think a further step towards a committable
    patch would include a test module that uses the new tagging
    functionality.
    
    > On a related note, the only structured logger we have in-core is the CSV 
    > logger. Many users nowadays end up feeding the logs to journald either by 
    > capturing the stderr output with systemd, or by having syslog implemented by 
    > journald itself. Would there be any interest in having native journald support 
    > as a logging_destination ?
    
    I don't know anything about journald, but I agree that we sorely need
    some better way to emit structured log entries.
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera              Valdivia, Chile  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
    "The problem with the facetime model is not just that it's demoralizing, but
    that the people pretending to work interrupt the ones actually working."
                                                               (Paul Graham)
    
    
    
    
  3. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> — 2021-08-19T14:14:25Z

    On Thu, Aug 19, 2021 at 3:04 PM Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:
    >
    > On 2021-Aug-13, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    >
    > > ereport(NOTICE,
    > >  (errmsg("My log message")),
    > >  (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
    > >  (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    > > );
    >
    > Interesting idea.   I agree this would be useful.
    >
    > > Please find attached a very small POC patch to better demonstrate what I
    > > propose.
    >
    > Seems like a good start.  I think a further step towards a committable
    > patch would include a test module that uses the new tagging
    > functionality.
    >
    > > On a related note, the only structured logger we have in-core is the CSV
    > > logger. Many users nowadays end up feeding the logs to journald either by
    > > capturing the stderr output with systemd, or by having syslog implemented by
    > > journald itself. Would there be any interest in having native journald support
    > > as a logging_destination ?
    >
    > I don't know anything about journald, but I agree that we sorely need
    > some better way to emit structured log entries.
    
    +1. I think having the ability to natively send structured data to
    journald would be useful.
    
    Another thing I've noticed in more and more other products is to be
    able to log as json, which is then later thrown into a central logging
    system somewhere. Basically like csv, but with the schema defined in
    each row. Yes, a lot more overhead, but some systems really do like to
    consume json.... So when we're on the topic of more structured
    logging...
    
    --
     Magnus Hagander
     Me: https://www.hagander.net/
     Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
    
    
    
    
  4. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> — 2021-08-19T14:50:10Z

    On 2021-Aug-19, Magnus Hagander wrote:
    
    > Another thing I've noticed in more and more other products is to be
    > able to log as json, which is then later thrown into a central logging
    > system somewhere. Basically like csv, but with the schema defined in
    > each row. Yes, a lot more overhead, but some systems really do like to
    > consume json.... So when we're on the topic of more structured
    > logging...
    
    Yeah, I was thinking in json logging too -- specifically thinking about
    Fluentbit and similar tools.
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera         PostgreSQL Developer  —  https://www.EnterpriseDB.com/
    
    
    
    
  5. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2021-08-20T09:31:21Z

    Le jeudi 19 août 2021, 15:04:30 CEST Alvaro Herrera a écrit :
    > On 2021-Aug-13, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > ereport(NOTICE,
    > > 
    > >  (errmsg("My log message")),
    > >  (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
    > >  (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    > > 
    > > );
    > 
    > Interesting idea.   I agree this would be useful.
    > 
    > > Please find attached a very small POC patch to better demonstrate what I
    > > propose.
    > 
    > Seems like a good start.  I think a further step towards a committable
    > patch would include a test module that uses the new tagging
    > functionality.
    
    Please find attached the original patch + a new one adding a test module.
    The test module exposes a function for generating logs with tags, and a log 
    hook which format the tags in the DETAIL field for easy regression testing.
    
    Next step would be to emit those tags in the CSV logs. I'm not sure what 
    representation they should have though: a nested csv in it's own column ? A 
    key => value pairs list similar to hstore ? A json object ? 
    
    Also we should probably make this available to the client too, but once again 
    the format of the tag field needs to be defined. Any opinion ? 
    
    
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  6. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2021-08-20T09:35:29Z

    Le jeudi 19 août 2021, 16:50:10 CEST Alvaro Herrera a écrit :
    > On 2021-Aug-19, Magnus Hagander wrote:
    > > Another thing I've noticed in more and more other products is to be
    > > able to log as json, which is then later thrown into a central logging
    > > system somewhere. Basically like csv, but with the schema defined in
    > > each row. Yes, a lot more overhead, but some systems really do like to
    > > consume json.... So when we're on the topic of more structured
    > > logging...
    > 
    > Yeah, I was thinking in json logging too -- specifically thinking about
    > Fluentbit and similar tools.
    
    Michael, your jsonlog module already fullfills this need. Is it something that 
    should be merged into our tree ?
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
    
    
    
    
    
    
  7. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2021-08-21T00:37:26Z

    On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:35:29AM +0200, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > Michael, your jsonlog module already fullfills this need. Is it something that 
    > should be merged into our tree ?
    
    Yes, there is nothing technically preventing to have this stuff in
    core, of course, and that would even take care of the issues in
    detecting if the piping protocol should be used or not.
    
    Now, the last time this was proposed, there was a lot of drawback
    because the presence of the JSON keys increases significantly the size
    of the logs compared to CSV, and usually users care a lot about the
    size of the log files.  I would support the presence of JSON format
    for the logs in core, FWIW.
    
    The module is here, for reference:
    https://github.com/michaelpq/pg_plugins/tree/master/jsonlog
    --
    Michael
    
  8. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2021-08-23T06:58:50Z

    Le vendredi 20 août 2021, 11:31:21 CEST Ronan Dunklau a écrit :
    > Le jeudi 19 août 2021, 15:04:30 CEST Alvaro Herrera a écrit :
    > > On 2021-Aug-13, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > > ereport(NOTICE,
    > > > 
    > > >  (errmsg("My log message")),
    > > >  (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
    > > >  (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    > > > 
    > > > );
    > > 
    > > Interesting idea.   I agree this would be useful.
    > > 
    > > > Please find attached a very small POC patch to better demonstrate what I
    > > > propose.
    > > 
    > > Seems like a good start.  I think a further step towards a committable
    > > patch would include a test module that uses the new tagging
    > > functionality.
    > 
    > Please find attached the original patch + a new one adding a test module.
    > The test module exposes a function for generating logs with tags, and a log
    > hook which format the tags in the DETAIL field for easy regression testing.
    > 
    > Next step would be to emit those tags in the CSV logs. I'm not sure what
    > representation they should have though: a nested csv in it's own column ? A
    > key => value pairs list similar to hstore ? A json object ?
    
    I opted for a JSON representation in the CSV logs, please find attached v3 
    which is the same thing as v2 with another patch for CSV log output.
    
    > 
    > Also we should probably make this available to the client too, but once
    > again the format of the tag field needs to be defined. Any opinion ?
    
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  9. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net> — 2021-08-23T09:33:09Z

    On Sat, Aug 21, 2021 at 2:37 AM Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
    >
    > On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:35:29AM +0200, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > Michael, your jsonlog module already fullfills this need. Is it something that
    > > should be merged into our tree ?
    >
    > Yes, there is nothing technically preventing to have this stuff in
    > core, of course, and that would even take care of the issues in
    > detecting if the piping protocol should be used or not.
    >
    > Now, the last time this was proposed, there was a lot of drawback
    > because the presence of the JSON keys increases significantly the size
    > of the logs compared to CSV, and usually users care a lot about the
    > size of the log files.  I would support the presence of JSON format
    > for the logs in core, FWIW.
    
    As long as it's optional, I don't think that drawback holds as an
    argument. The same argument could be made against the cvs logs in the
    first place -- they add information to every row that a lot of people
    don't need. But it's optional. Leaving it up to the administrator to
    choose whether they prefer the verbose-and-easier-to-parse-maybe
    format or the more compact format seems like the right path for that.
    I bet quite a few would actually choose json -- easier to integrate
    with other systems (because newer systems love json), and unless
    you're actually logging a lot of queries (which many people don't),
    the size of the logfile is often not a concern at all.
    
    In short, I would also support the presence of JSON log format in
    core. (but as a proper log_destination of course -- or if it's time to
    actually split that into a separaet thing, being one parameter for
    log_destination and another for log_format)
    
    
    -- 
     Magnus Hagander
     Me: https://www.hagander.net/
     Work: https://www.redpill-linpro.com/
    
    
    
    
  10. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2021-08-24T23:21:43Z

    On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:33:09AM +0200, Magnus Hagander wrote:
    > As long as it's optional, I don't think that drawback holds as an
    > argument. The same argument could be made against the cvs logs in the
    > first place -- they add information to every row that a lot of people
    > don't need. But it's optional. Leaving it up to the administrator to
    > choose whether they prefer the verbose-and-easier-to-parse-maybe
    > format or the more compact format seems like the right path for that.
    
    From a code perspective, and while on it, we could split a bit elog.c
    and move the log entries generated for each format into their own
    file.  That would be cleaner for CSV and JSON.  As a whole I don't
    have an objection with moving the JSON format into core.  If one
    proposes a patch, feel free to reuse the code from the module I have
    released.
    
    > I bet quite a few would actually choose json -- easier to integrate
    > with other systems (because newer systems love json), and unless
    > you're actually logging a lot of queries (which many people don't),
    > the size of the logfile is often not a concern at all.
    
    The module I publish on github to do this work is the most popular
    thing of my plugin repo, FWIW.  It even gets bug reports, sometimes.
    
    > In short, I would also support the presence of JSON log format in
    > core. (but as a proper log_destination of course -- or if it's time to
    > actually split that into a separaet thing, being one parameter for
    > log_destination and another for log_format)
    
    What would you gain with a new parameter here?  I think that this
    would be rather confusing and log_destination has been around for
    years.
    --
    Michael
    
  11. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Sehrope Sarkuni <sehrope@jackdb.com> — 2021-08-31T14:46:30Z

    On Tue, Aug 24, 2021 at 7:22 PM Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> wrote:
    
    > From a code perspective, and while on it, we could split a bit elog.c
    > and move the log entries generated for each format into their own
    > file.  That would be cleaner for CSV and JSON.  As a whole I don't
    > have an objection with moving the JSON format into core.  If one
    > proposes a patch, feel free to reuse the code from the module I have
    > released.
    >
    
    I had a patch that does exactly this from a few years ago. It started off
    copying a bunch out of your json logging module and adds it as a new
    "jsonlog" destination.
    
    It needed some cleanup due to bit rot, but it now builds and works atop
    master. I'll post it in its own thread.
    
    Regards,
    -- Sehrope Sarkuni
    Founder & CEO | JackDB, Inc. | https://www.jackdb.com/
    
  12. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2021-09-01T00:28:02Z

    On Tue, Aug 31, 2021 at 10:46:30AM -0400, Sehrope Sarkuni wrote:
    > It needed some cleanup due to bit rot, but it now builds and works atop
    > master. I'll post it in its own thread.
    
    Thanks.
    --
    Michael
    
  13. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com> — 2021-09-01T07:35:19Z

    On 23.08.21 11:33, Magnus Hagander wrote:
    > In short, I would also support the presence of JSON log format in
    > core. (but as a proper log_destination of course -- or if it's time to
    > actually split that into a separaet thing, being one parameter for
    > log_destination and another for log_format)
    
    It would be useful if there was some kind of standardized schema for 
    JSON logging, meaning what the keys should be named etc.  Then we don't 
    need to make this all up from scratch, and there could be some 
    integration with existing log analysis tools.
    
    
    
    
  14. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com> — 2021-09-01T07:36:50Z

    On 13.08.21 15:23, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > The logging system already captures a lot of information in the ErrorData. But
    > at present there is no way for a log message authors to include more metadata
    > about the log outside of the log message itself. For example, including the
    > extension name which can be useful for filtering / dispatching log messages.
    > This can be done in the log message itself, but that requires specialized
    > parsing in the log output.
    > 
    > Even though among the available loggers in core, only the csv logger would be
    > able to make sense of it, I feel it would be beneficial to add a tagging system
    > to logs, by adding different (tag, value) combinations to a log entry, with an
    > API similar to what we do for other ErrorData fields:
    > 
    > ereport(NOTICE,
    >   (errmsg("My log message")),
    >   (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
    >   (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    > );
    
    What are some more examples of where this could be used?  The extension 
    name could be added more or less automatically to ereport() calls.  I 
    don't know what the MSG-ID is supposed to be.  Are there other use cases?
    
    
    
    
    
  15. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2021-09-01T08:00:28Z

    Le mercredi 1 septembre 2021, 09:36:50 CEST Peter Eisentraut a écrit :
    > On 13.08.21 15:23, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > The logging system already captures a lot of information in the ErrorData.
    > > But at present there is no way for a log message authors to include more
    > > metadata about the log outside of the log message itself. For example,
    > > including the extension name which can be useful for filtering /
    > > dispatching log messages. This can be done in the log message itself, but
    > > that requires specialized parsing in the log output.
    > > 
    > > Even though among the available loggers in core, only the csv logger would
    > > be able to make sense of it, I feel it would be beneficial to add a
    > > tagging system to logs, by adding different (tag, value) combinations to
    > > a log entry, with an API similar to what we do for other ErrorData
    > > fields:
    > > 
    > > ereport(NOTICE,
    > > 
    > >   (errmsg("My log message")),
    > >   (errtag("EMITTER", "MYEXTENSION")),
    > >   (errtag("MSG-ID", "%d", error_message_id))
    > > 
    > > );
    > 
    > What are some more examples of where this could be used?  The extension
    > name could be added more or less automatically to ereport() calls.  I
    > don't know what the MSG-ID is supposed to be.  Are there other use cases?
    
    Adding it automatically would be nice, but how would you go about that ?
    
    In-core it would open up the possibility to split log messages into different 
    fields, for example the different statistics reported in the logs by VACUUM / 
    ANALYZE VERBOSE and make it easier to consume the output without having to 
    parse the message. Parsing the message also means that any tool parsing it 
    needs to either be aware of the locale, or to force the user to use a specific 
    one.
    
    Out-of-core, the same things could be done for extensions like pg_audit which 
    logs structured information into the message itself, leaving the message 
    format to be parsed at a later time.
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
    
    
    
    
    
    
  16. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com> — 2021-09-08T09:51:31Z

    On 01.09.21 10:00, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > In-core it would open up the possibility to split log messages into different
    > fields, for example the different statistics reported in the logs by VACUUM /
    > ANALYZE VERBOSE and make it easier to consume the output without having to
    > parse the message. Parsing the message also means that any tool parsing it
    > needs to either be aware of the locale, or to force the user to use a specific
    > one.
    
    I think those messages would themselves have substructure.  For example, 
    the current message
    
         "I/O timings: read: %.3f ms, write: %.3f ms\n"
    
    might be
    
         {"I/O timings": {"read": ..., "write": ...}}
    
    and that in turn is already part of a larger message.
    
    So just having a single level of tags wouldn't really work for this.
    
    
    
    
  17. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2021-09-09T09:15:36Z

    Le mercredi 8 septembre 2021, 11:51:31 CEST Peter Eisentraut a écrit :
    > On 01.09.21 10:00, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > In-core it would open up the possibility to split log messages into
    > > different fields, for example the different statistics reported in the
    > > logs by VACUUM / ANALYZE VERBOSE and make it easier to consume the output
    > > without having to parse the message. Parsing the message also means that
    > > any tool parsing it needs to either be aware of the locale, or to force
    > > the user to use a specific one.
    > 
    > I think those messages would themselves have substructure.  For example,
    > the current message
    > 
    >      "I/O timings: read: %.3f ms, write: %.3f ms\n"
    > 
    > might be
    > 
    >      {"I/O timings": {"read": ..., "write": ...}}
    > 
    > and that in turn is already part of a larger message.
    > 
    > So just having a single level of tags wouldn't really work for this.
    
    I agree having a nested structure may feel more natural, but I don't think it 
    would matter too much if we standardize on ini-style property names (ie, 
    iotimings.read, iotimings.write and so on...)
    
    Regards,
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
    
    
    
    
    
    
  18. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com> — 2021-12-29T13:59:16Z

    > Subject: [PATCH v3 2/3] Add test module for the new tag functionality.
    ...
    > +test_logging(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
    > +{
    ...
    > +	 (errmsg("%s", message),
    > +	  ({
    > +		forboth(lk, keys, lv, values)
    > +		{
    > +			(errtag(lfirst(lk), "%s", (char *) lfirst(lv)));
    > +		}})
    > +	));
    
    The windows build fails with that syntax.
    http://cfbot.cputube.org/ronan-dunklau.html
    https://ci.appveyor.com/project/postgresql-cfbot/postgresql/build/1.0.157923
    
    > Subject: [PATCH v3 3/3] Output error tags in CSV logs
    > +++ b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
    > @@ -7370,6 +7371,7 @@ CREATE TABLE postgres_log
    >    backend_type text,
    >    leader_pid integer,
    >    query_id bigint,
    > +  tags jsonb
    >    PRIMARY KEY (session_id, session_line_num)
    >  );
    >  </programlisting>
    
    That's invalid sql due to missing a trailing ",".
    
    You should also update file-fdw.sgml - which I only think of since we forgot in
    to update it before e568ed0eb and 0830d21f5.  config.sgml should have a comment
    as a reminder to do that.
    
    -- 
    Justin
    
    
    
    
  19. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2022-01-11T10:05:26Z

    Le mercredi 29 décembre 2021, 14:59:16 CET Justin Pryzby a écrit :
    > > Subject: [PATCH v3 2/3] Add test module for the new tag functionality.
    > 
    > ...
    > 
    > > +test_logging(PG_FUNCTION_ARGS)
    > > +{
    > 
    > ...
    > 
    > > +	 (errmsg("%s", message),
    > > +	  ({
    > > +		forboth(lk, keys, lv, values)
    > > +		{
    > > +			(errtag(lfirst(lk), "%s", (char *) 
    lfirst(lv)));
    > > +		}})
    > > +	));
    > 
    > The windows build fails with that syntax.
    > http://cfbot.cputube.org/ronan-dunklau.html
    > https://ci.appveyor.com/project/postgresql-cfbot/postgresql/build/1.0.157923
    
    Thank you. I switched to an explicit sequence of errstart / errfinish to avoid  
    putting too much things in nested macro calls. As I don't have any Windows 
    knowledge, I am very grateful for the new cirrus-ci integration which allowed 
    me to build on Windows without hassle.
    
    > > Subject: [PATCH v3 3/3] Output error tags in CSV logs
    > > +++ b/doc/src/sgml/config.sgml
    > > @@ -7370,6 +7371,7 @@ CREATE TABLE postgres_log
    > > 
    > >    backend_type text,
    > >    leader_pid integer,
    > >    query_id bigint,
    > > 
    > > +  tags jsonb
    > > 
    > >    PRIMARY KEY (session_id, session_line_num)
    > >  
    > >  );
    > >  </programlisting>
    > 
    > That's invalid sql due to missing a trailing ",".
    
    Thanks, fixed.
    
    > 
    > You should also update file-fdw.sgml - which I only think of since we forgot
    > in to update it before e568ed0eb and 0830d21f5.  config.sgml should have a
    > comment as a reminder to do that.
    
    Done, and I added anoher commit per your suggestion to add this comment.
    
    Thank you for this review.
    
    Regards,
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  20. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Julien Rouhaud <rjuju123@gmail.com> — 2022-01-15T06:09:59Z

    Hi,
    
    On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:05:26AM +0100, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > 
    > Done, and I added anoher commit per your suggestion to add this comment.
    
    The cfbot reports that the patchset doesn't apply anymore:
    
    http://cfbot.cputube.org/patch_36_3293.log
    === Applying patches on top of PostgreSQL commit ID 43c2175121c829c8591fc5117b725f1f22bfb670 ===
    [...]
    === applying patch ./v4-0003-Output-error-tags-in-CSV-logs.patch
    [...]
    patching file src/backend/utils/error/elog.c
    Hunk #2 FAILED at 3014.
    1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file src/backend/utils/error/elog.c.rej
    
    Could you send a rebased version?  In the meantime I will switch the cf entry
    to Waiting on Author.
    
    
    
    
  21. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2022-01-17T08:18:04Z

    Le samedi 15 janvier 2022, 07:09:59 CET Julien Rouhaud a écrit :
    > Hi,
    > 
    > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:05:26AM +0100, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > Done, and I added anoher commit per your suggestion to add this comment.
    > 
    > The cfbot reports that the patchset doesn't apply anymore:
    > 
    > http://cfbot.cputube.org/patch_36_3293.log
    > === Applying patches on top of PostgreSQL commit ID
    > 43c2175121c829c8591fc5117b725f1f22bfb670 === [...]
    > === applying patch ./v4-0003-Output-error-tags-in-CSV-logs.patch
    > [...]
    > patching file src/backend/utils/error/elog.c
    > Hunk #2 FAILED at 3014.
    > 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file
    > src/backend/utils/error/elog.c.rej
    > 
    > Could you send a rebased version?  In the meantime I will switch the cf
    > entry to Waiting on Author.
    
    Thank you for this notification !
    
    The csvlog has been refactored since I wrote the patch, and the new jsonlog 
    destination has been introduced. I rebased to fix the first patch, and added a 
    new patch to add support for tags in jsonlog output.
    
    Best regards,
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  22. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2022-01-18T05:46:03Z

    Le lundi 17 janvier 2022, 09:18:04 CET Ronan Dunklau a écrit :
    > Le samedi 15 janvier 2022, 07:09:59 CET Julien Rouhaud a écrit :
    > > Hi,
    > > 
    > > On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 11:05:26AM +0100, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > > Done, and I added anoher commit per your suggestion to add this comment.
    > > 
    > > The cfbot reports that the patchset doesn't apply anymore:
    > > 
    > > http://cfbot.cputube.org/patch_36_3293.log
    > > === Applying patches on top of PostgreSQL commit ID
    > > 43c2175121c829c8591fc5117b725f1f22bfb670 === [...]
    > > === applying patch ./v4-0003-Output-error-tags-in-CSV-logs.patch
    > > [...]
    > > patching file src/backend/utils/error/elog.c
    > > Hunk #2 FAILED at 3014.
    > > 1 out of 2 hunks FAILED -- saving rejects to file
    > > src/backend/utils/error/elog.c.rej
    > > 
    > > Could you send a rebased version?  In the meantime I will switch the cf
    > > entry to Waiting on Author.
    > 
    > Thank you for this notification !
    > 
    > The csvlog has been refactored since I wrote the patch, and the new jsonlog
    > destination has been introduced. I rebased to fix the first patch, and added
    > a new patch to add support for tags in jsonlog output.
    > 
    > Best regards,
    
    Hum, there was a missing import in csvlog.c from the fix above. Sorry about 
    that. 
    
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  23. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2022-01-27T07:15:01Z

    On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 06:46:03AM +0100, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > Hum, there was a missing import in csvlog.c from the fix above. Sorry about 
    > that. 
    
    +<!-- Don't forget to also update file_fdw.sgml if you change this
    table definition -->
     <programlisting>
    
    You are also forgetting that the table listing all the jsonlog fields
    needs a refresh with this new key called "tags", and that it has a
    JSON object underneath.
    
    If you want to test all the formats supported by logging_destination,
    wouldn't this stuff be better if tested through TAP with
    logging_destination set with csvlog, jsonlog and stderr?  This is
    lacking coverage for csvlog.c and jsonlog.c, paths touched by your
    patch.
    --
    Michael
    
  24. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Ronan Dunklau <ronan.dunklau@aiven.io> — 2022-01-27T13:58:37Z

    Le jeudi 27 janvier 2022, 08:15:01 CET Michael Paquier a écrit :
    > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 06:46:03AM +0100, Ronan Dunklau wrote:
    > > Hum, there was a missing import in csvlog.c from the fix above. Sorry
    > > about
    > > that.
    > 
    > +<!-- Don't forget to also update file_fdw.sgml if you change this
    > table definition -->
    >  <programlisting>
    > 
    > You are also forgetting that the table listing all the jsonlog fields
    > needs a refresh with this new key called "tags", and that it has a
    > JSON object underneath.
    
    Done.
    
    > 
    > If you want to test all the formats supported by logging_destination,
    > wouldn't this stuff be better if tested through TAP with
    > logging_destination set with csvlog, jsonlog and stderr?  This is
    > lacking coverage for csvlog.c and jsonlog.c, paths touched by your
    > patch.
    
    Done,  I also added coverage for log_verbosity = verbose while I was at it, 
    and fixed a bug I introduced in csvlog while rebasing... 
    
    -- 
    Ronan Dunklau
  25. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu> — 2022-01-31T22:46:29Z

    1) I would like an interface which more or less guarantees that
    *every* parameter of the log message is included in the structured
    data. Ideally there should be no actual need to generate the formatted
    messages for destinations like elastic search, just record the message
    id and the parameters.
    
    To that end I would thing something like:
    
    ereport(DEBUG2,
    (errmsg("table \"%s\": removed %lld dead item identifiers in %u pages",
    vacrel->relname, (long long) index, vacuumed_pages)));
    
    Would end up like:
    
    ereport(DEBUG2,
    (errmsg("table \"%s\": removed %lld dead item identifiers in %u pages",
      errtag("relname", vacrel->relname),
      errtag("dead_item_pointers", (long long) index),
      errtag("vacuumed_pages", vacuumed_pages))));
    
    And any untagged parameters could be included in the structured data
    with unknown tag names. (Or perhaps some macro magic involving # but
    I'm not sure that would be possible with va_args.)
    
    2) I was kind of hoping we could have some sort of list of known tag
    labels that could be used. So instead of an arbitrary string for the
    label name you just referenced the known labels. Then we could
    document that whenever "relid" appears as a tag id it's the oid of a
    relation, for example.
    
    This would help with things like "search elastic search for all log
    entries for relid x, block p". Which wouldn't work if block is
    sometimes "page" and sometimes "blocknum" and sometimes "block"....
    
    So I was imagining something like
    
    errtag(TAG_RELID, relid)
    
    
    3) When it comes to things like queryid it would be helpful to be able
    to inject tags from higher in the call stack so that invididual
    ereport sites don't need to include it and we can decide to add new
    things like it in the future. This will be useful for things like
    distributed tracing tools who need to inject a span id into the every
    log message.
    
    I imagine it could also be useful more generally. Application
    developers might want to inject things like a pipeline identifier from
    their CI tools and then pull any logs with that identifier into their
    CI reports.
    
    Yes, they could be added as new columns in CSV and top level json
    attributes but we may well have new tags that are not always there or
    are even created on user request. Or we may have cases where there can
    be more than one active at a time.
    
    4) As far as code ... this is probably premature microoptimization but
    I do find the tags all being individually palloced and all going
    through string formatting seems like a lot of overhead. Like the
    actual number of errtag() calls in the ereport is always going to be
    the same and the values are probably always going to be a single
    parameter, not really using the formatting functionality.
    
    I don't necessarily have a better alternative though. The only thing I
    can think of isn't really any better:
    
    errtag_str(RELNAME, relname)
    errtag_int(RELID, relid)
    
    (possibly with some magic where there's an errtag() function that
    looks up which data type to expect for a given tag id).
    
    It looks strange to me that the errorTag struct has a "const char
    *tagname" but a "char *tagvalue". I think this is a side effect of the
    code and not actually a sensible way to define the struct. Surely they
    should both be const?
    
    
    
    
  26. Re: Proposal: More structured logging

    Michael Paquier <michael@paquier.xyz> — 2022-04-07T06:44:26Z

    On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 05:46:29PM -0500, Greg Stark wrote:
    > It looks strange to me that the errorTag struct has a "const char
    > *tagname" but a "char *tagvalue". I think this is a side effect of the
    > code and not actually a sensible way to define the struct. Surely they
    > should both be const?
    
    This review has not been answered, and it was around for two months
    now.  I am marking this patch as returned with feedback.
    --
    Michael