Re: Removing more vacuumlazy.c special cases, relfrozenxid optimizations
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
Hi, On 2021-11-23 17:01:20 -0800, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > > On reason for my doubt is the following: > > > > We can set all-visible on a page without a FPW image (well, as long as hint > > bits aren't logged). There's a significant difference between needing to WAL > > log FPIs for every heap page or not, and it's not that rare for data to live > > shorter than autovacuum_freeze_max_age or that limit never being reached. > > This sounds like an objection to one specific heuristic, and not an > objection to the general idea. I understood you to propose that we do not have separate frozen and all-visible states. Which I think will be problematic, because of scenarios like the above. > The only essential part is "opportunistic freezing during vacuum, when the > cost is clearly very low, and the benefit is probably high". And so it now > seems you were making a far more limited statement than I first believed. I'm on board with freezing when we already dirty out the page, and when doing so doesn't cause an additional FPI. And I don't think I've argued against that in the past. > These all-visible (but not all-frozen) heap pages could be considered > "tenured", since they have survived at least one full VACUUM cycle > without being unset. So why not also freeze them based on the > assumption that they'll probably stay that way forever? Because it's a potentially massive increase in write volume? E.g. if you have a insert-only workload, and you discard old data by dropping old partitions, this will often add yet another rewrite, despite your data likely never getting old enough to need to be frozen. Given that we often immediately need to start another vacuum just when one finished, because the vacuum took long enough to reach thresholds of vacuuming again, I don't think the (auto-)vacuum count is a good proxy. Maybe you meant this as a more limited concept, i.e. only doing so when the percentage of all-visible but not all-frozen pages is small? We could perhaps do better with if we had information about the system-wide rate of xid throughput and how often / how long past vacuums of a table took. Greetings, Andres Freund
Commits
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Have VACUUM warn on relfrozenxid "in the future".
- e83ebfe6d767 15.0 landed
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vacuumlazy.c: Further consolidate resource allocation.
- c42a6fc41dc2 15.0 landed
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Generalize how VACUUM skips all-frozen pages.
- f3c15cbe5065 15.0 landed
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Set relfrozenxid to oldest extant XID seen by VACUUM.
- 0b018fabaaba 15.0 landed
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Doc: Add relfrozenxid Tip to XID wraparound section.
- 05023a237c05 15.0 landed
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vacuumlazy.c: document vistest and OldestXmin.
- 73f6ec3d3c8d 15.0 cited
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Increase hash_mem_multiplier default to 2.0.
- 8f388f6f554b 15.0 cited
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Consolidate VACUUM xid cutoff logic.
- efa4a9462a07 15.0 landed
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Add VACUUM instrumentation for scanned pages, relfrozenxid.
- 872770fd6ccf 15.0 landed
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Simplify lazy_scan_heap's handling of scanned pages.
- 44fa84881fff 15.0 landed
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Try to stabilize reloptions test, again.
- b700f96cffd9 15.0 cited
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Unify VACUUM VERBOSE and autovacuum logging.
- 49c9d9fcfa9a 15.0 cited
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Fix possible HOT corruption when RECENTLY_DEAD changes to DEAD while pruning.
- 18b87b201f73 15.0 cited
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pg_resetxlog: add option to set oldest xid & use by pg_upgrade
- 74cf7d46a91d 15.0 cited
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Teach VACUUM to bypass unnecessary index vacuuming.
- 5100010ee4d5 14.0 cited
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Centralize horizon determination for temp tables, fixing bug due to skew.
- 94bc27b57680 14.0 cited
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pg_surgery: Try to stabilize regression tests.
- 0811f766fd74 14.0 cited
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Add "split after new tuple" nbtree optimization.
- f21668f328c8 12.0 cited
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Fix bugs in vacuum of shared rels, by keeping their relcache entries current.
- a54e1f158779 11.0 cited
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Avoid useless truncation attempts during VACUUM.
- e842908233bb 9.6.0 cited
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Only skip pages marked as clean in the visibility map, if the last 32
- bf136cf6e376 8.4.0 cited
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Fix recently-understood problems with handling of XID freezing, particularly
- 48188e1621bb 8.2.0 cited