Re: [RFC] building postgres with meson

Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>

From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Date: 2021-10-20T01:08:59Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Hi,

On 2021-10-19 15:22:15 -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
> Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de> writes:
> > On 2021-10-12 01:37:21 -0700, Andres Freund wrote:
> >> As far as I can tell the only OS that postgres currently supports that
> >> meson doesn't support is HPUX. It'd likely be fairly easy to add
> >> gcc-on-hpux support, a chunk more to add support for the proprietary
> >> ones.
>
> > Tom, wrt HPUX on pa-risc, what are your thoughts there? IIRC we gave up
> > supporting HP's compiler on pa-risc a while ago.
>
> Right.  I am still testing with gcc on HP-PA.  I'd kind of like to
> keep it running just as an edge case for our spinlock support, but
> I'm not sure that I want to do any huge amount of work on meson
> to keep that going.

Makes sense.  While that does test an odd special case for our spinlock
implementation, it's also the only supported platform with that edge case, and
it seems extremely unlikely that there ever will be a new platform with such
odd/limited atomic operations.


> I do have a functioning OpenBSD installation on that machine, so
> one alternative if the porting costs look too high is to replace
> gaur with an OpenBSD animal. However, last I checked, OpenBSD
> was about half the speed of HPUX on that hardware, so I'm not
> real eager to go that way.  gaur's already about the slowest
> animal in the farm :-(

Yea, that doesn't sound enticing. Seems like we either should keep it running
on hp-ux or just drop parisc support?


> > As I said it'd probably not be too hard to add meson support for hpux on hppa,
> > it's probably just a few branches. But that'd require access somewhere. The
> > gcc compile farm does not have a hppa member anymore...
>
> If you've got an idea where to look, I could add that to my to-do queue.

It might even just work. Looks like meson does have pa-risc detection. While
it doesn't have any specifically for hpux, it just falls back to python's
sys.platform in that case. python3 -c 'import sys;print(sys.platform)'

meson generates output for ninja to execute (basically a faster make that's
partially faster by being much less flexible. Intended to be output by more
user-friendly buildsystems ). Ninja can be built by a minimal python script,
or with cmake. The former doesn't seem to have hpux support, the latter does I
think.
https://github.com/ninja-build/ninja

So it could be interesting to see if ninja builds.


I've not taught the PG meson the necessary stuff for a 32 bit build. So
there's no point is trying whether meson works that much. I'll try to do that,
and let you know.


> I'm more concerned about the effort involved in getting meson going on some
> other old animals, such as prairiedog.

Yea, that's an *old* OS version. One version too old to have support for
@rpath, added in 10.5 :(. Is there a reason to run 10.4 specifically?
According to wikipedia 10.5 is the last version to support ppc.

Looks like python still supports building back to 10.4.

Greetings,

Andres Freund



Commits

  1. meson: Add 'running' test setup, as a replacement for installcheck

  2. meson: Add support for building with precompiled headers

  3. windows: Adjust FD_SETSIZE via commandline define

  4. meson: docs: Add xml{lint,proc} wrapper to collect dependencies

  5. meson: ecpg: Split definition of static and shared libraries

  6. windows: Set UMDF_USING_NTSTATUS globally, include ntstatus.h

  7. ci: Add hint about downloadable logs to README

  8. meson: Set up absolute rpaths to libdir

  9. meson: Include CFLAGS/c_args in summary and pg_config output

  10. windows: remove date from version number in win32ver.rc

  11. meson: Add initial version of meson based build system

  12. ci: windows: set error mode to not include SEM_NOGPFAULTERRORBOX

  13. Refactor PG_TEST_EXTRA logic in autoconf build

  14. Split TESTDIR into TESTLOGDIR and TESTDATADIR

  15. Don't hardcode tmp_check/ as test directory for tap tests

  16. Extend gendef.pl in preparation for meson

  17. Include c.h instead of postgres.h in src/port/*p{read,write}*.c

  18. Remove DLLTOOL, DLLWRAP from configure / Makefile.global.in

  19. Run xmllint validation only once

  20. Bump minimum Perl version to 5.14

  21. Move gramparse.h to src/backend/parser

  22. Run perltidy over Catalog.pm

  23. Parse catalog .dat files as a whole when compiling the backend

  24. Build all Flex files standalone

  25. Move private declarations shared between guc.c and guc-file.l to new header

  26. Preparatory refactoring for compiling guc-file.c standalone

  27. Move darwin sysroot determination into separate file

  28. Fix MSVC warning in compat_informix/rnull.pgc

  29. solaris: Use versioning scripts instead of -Bsymbolic

  30. Change shared library installation naming on macOS

  31. regress: allow to specify directory containing expected files, for ecpg

  32. Don't add HAVE_LDAP_H HAVE_WINLDAP_H to pg_config.h

  33. Refactor dtrace postprocessing make rules

  34. Add output directory option to gen_node_support.pl

  35. Add output directory argument to generate-unicode_norm_table.pl

  36. Add output file argument to generate-errcodes.pl

  37. Add output path arg in generate-lwlocknames.pl

  38. Move snowball_create.sql creation into perl file

  39. ecpg: Output dir, source dir, stamp file argument for preproc/*.pl

  40. psql: Output dir and dependency generation for sql_help

  41. Deal with paths containing \ and spaces in basebackup_to_shell tests

  42. Remove LLVM_CONFIG from Makefile.global.in

  43. Make update-unicode target work in vpath builds

  44. Refactor DLSUFFIX handling

  45. ldap tests: Add paths for openbsd.

  46. ldap tests: Don't run on unsupported operating systems.

  47. Remove check for accept() argument types

  48. Move our p{read,write}v replacements into their own files.

  49. Adjust yywrap macro for non-reentrant scanners for MSVC.

  50. Remove any -arch switches given in ExtUtils::Embed's ldopts from our

  51. Change PL/Perl and Pg interface build to use configured compiler and

  52. Apparently, on some systems, ExtUtils::Embed and MakeMaker are slightly