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  1. Re: [PATCH] Proposal for HIDDEN/INVISIBLE column

    Jaime Casanova <jcasanov@systemguards.com.ec> — 2021-10-14T15:38:56Z

    On Thu, Oct 14, 2021 at 01:16:45PM +0200, Gilles Darold wrote:
    > Hi,
    > 
    > 
    > Here is a proposal to implement HIDDEN columns feature in PostgreSQL.
    > 
    
    Great! Actually I found this very useful, especially for those people
    using big fields (geometry, files, large texts).
    
    > The user defined columns are always visible in the PostgreSQL. If user
    > wants to hide some column(s) from a SELECT * returned values then the
    > hidden columns feature is useful. Hidden column can always be used and
    > returned by explicitly referring it in the query.
    > 
    > I agree that views are done for that or that using a SELECT * is a bad
    > practice
    
    An a common one, even if we want to think otherwise. I have found that
    in almost every customer I have the bad luck to get to see code or
    SELECTs.
    
    Not counting that sometimes we have columns for optimization like Dave
    saved about hidden a ts_vector column.
    
    Another use case I can think of is not covered in this patch, but it
    could be (I hope!) or even if not I would like opinions on this idea. 
    What about a boolean GUC log_hidden_column that throws a LOG message when 
    a hidden column is used directly?
    
    The intention is to mark a to-be-deleted column as HIDDEN and then check
    the logs to understand if is still being used somewhere. I know systems
    where they carry the baggage of deprecated columns only because they
    don't know if some system is still using them.
    
    I know this would be extending your original proposal, and understand if
    you decide is not a first patch material. 
    
    Anyway, a +1 to your proposal. 
    
    -- 
    Jaime Casanova
    Director de Servicios Profesionales
    SystemGuards - Consultores de PostgreSQL