Re: BUG #16961: Could not access status of transaction
Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
From: Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Stepan Yankevych <Stepan_Yankevych@epam.com>, Stepan Yankevych <stepya@ukr.net>, "sergii.zhuravlev@smartnet.ua" <sergii.zhuravlev@smartnet.ua>, "pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org" <pgsql-bugs@lists.postgresql.org>
Date: 2021-06-05T21:31:28Z
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Fix bug where we truncated CLOG that was still needed by LISTEN/NOTIFY
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On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 05:25:39PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> writes: > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2021 at 06:49:15PM +0000, Stepan Yankevych wrote: > >> The issue happening each morning when application starts on the production DataBase during about a month. > >> Always the same transaction id is mentioned in the error (1954017648) > >> We tried to do UNLISTEN - no changes. the same issue. > >> LISTEN works good for any other channels. > > > ... > > On the other hand, if that's what happened, your report that "LISTEN works > > good for any other channels" surprises me. Perhaps something completely > > different happened on your system. > > I suspect the true state of affairs was more like "LISTEN works good in > any other databases". The described symptoms are consistent with there > being a message in the NOTIFY queue that has a pruned-away xid. An > incoming listener would try to scan over already-committed notify > messages, but testing to see whether this stale message is committed > would fail. However, since asyncQueueProcessPageEntries just ignores > messages not targeted for the current database, incoming listeners > in other databases wouldn't notice the problem. > > ISTM the interesting question here is what was holding back truncation > of the NOTIFY queue. Could there have been an open transaction somewhere > that was failing to collect NOTIFY data? Open transactions always decline to collect notify data, don't they? See ProcessNotifyInterrupt(). > But a transaction sitting open > for a month is likely to cause far more severe problems than that one. True. > > We could prevent the trouble if vac_truncate_clog() had access to the oldest > > xid in the notification queue; it would set frozenXID to that value if > > frozenXID would otherwise be older. > > Perhaps. I'm not sure how hard it is to extract the oldest xid in the > queue (where "oldest" is defined as "numerically smallest"). The entries > are in xid commit order which is a different thing. Yeah, it wouldn't be cheap in the general case. The value could be a field in pg_control, updated by a separate VACUUM NOTIFY, which autovacuum would also run roughly as often as autovacuum visits template0.