Re: [PATCH] remove deprecated v8.2 containment operators
Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Peter Eisentraut <peter.eisentraut@enterprisedb.com>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>, Heikki Linnakangas <hlinnaka@iki.fi>, Ian Lawrence Barwick <barwick@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2020-11-13T15:03:43Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Greetings, * Magnus Hagander (magnus@hagander.net) wrote: > On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 11:28 PM Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote: > > > The changes to the contrib modules appear to be incomplete in some ways. > > > In cube, hstore, and seg, there are no changes to the extension > > > scripts to remove the operators. All you're doing is changing the C > > > code to no longer recognize the strategy, but that doesn't explain what > > > will happen if the operator is still used. In intarray, by contrast, > > > you're editing an existing extension script, but that should be done by > > > an upgrade script instead. > > > > In the contrib modules, I'm afraid what you gotta do is remove the > > SQL operator definitions but leave the opclass code support in place. > > That's because there's no guarantee that users will update the extension's > > SQL version immediately, so a v14 build of the .so might still be used > > with the old SQL definitions. It's not clear how much window we need > > give for people to do that update, but I don't think "zero" is an > > acceptable answer. > > Based on my experience from the field, the answer is "never". > > As in, most people have no idea they are even *supposed* to do such an > upgrade, so they don't do it. Until we solve that problem, I think > we're basically stuck with keeping them "forever". (and even if/when > we do, "zero" is probably not going to cut it, no) Yeah, this is a serious problem and one that we should figure out a way to fix or at least improve on- maybe by having pg_upgrade say something about extensions that could/should be upgraded..? Thanks, Stephen
Commits
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Doc: remove obsolete entries in table of BRIN strategy numbers.
- 0ce4cd04da55 14.0 landed
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Remove deprecated containment operators for contrib types.
- 112d411fbeb5 14.0 landed
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Remove unused and deprecated strategy numbers from BRIN code
- d93ccdea1d44 14.0 landed
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Remove code handling removed deprecated containment operators
- 591d282e8d3e 14.0 landed
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Remove deprecated containment operators for built-in types
- 2f70fdb0644c 14.0 landed
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Remove use of deprecated containment operators in tests
- 3165426e54df 14.0 landed