Re: SLRU statistics
Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
From: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>
Cc: "tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com" <tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com>, "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2020-01-20T18:45:46Z
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Fix async.c to not register any SLRU stats counts in the postmaster.
- 7fd89f4d7a51 13.0 landed
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Use proper GetDatum function in pg_stat_get_slru().
- 043e3e040160 13.0 landed
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Initialize SLRU stats entries to zero.
- f3d23d83ef9a 13.0 landed
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Remove pg_xact from pg_stat_reset_slru docs
- e685ca63ca4f 13.0 landed
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Remove pg_xact entry from SLRU stats
- 2e08d314ed07 13.0 landed
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Track SLRU page hits in SimpleLruReadPage_ReadOnly
- 2b88fdde30d8 13.0 landed
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Fix typo in SLRU stats documentation
- 2c220ca46f3f 13.0 landed
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Collect statistics about SLRU caches
- 28cac71bd368 13.0 landed
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Simplify and rename some GUC variables, per various recent discussions:
- 48f7e6439568 8.3.0 cited
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 03:01:36PM -0300, Alvaro Herrera wrote: >On 2020-Jan-20, Tomas Vondra wrote: > >> On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 01:04:33AM +0000, tsunakawa.takay@fujitsu.com wrote: >> > From: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com> >> > > One of the stats I occasionally wanted to know are stats for the SLRU >> > > stats (we have couple of those - clog, subtrans, ...). So here is a WIP >> > > version of a patch adding that. >> > >> > How can users take advantage of this information? I think we also need >> > the ability to set the size of SLRU buffers. (I want to be freed from >> > the concern about the buffer shortage by setting the buffer size to its >> > maximum. For example, CLOG would be only 1 GB.) >> >> You're right the users can't really take advantage of this - my primary >> motivation was providing a feedback for devs, benchmarking etc. That >> might have been done with DEBUG messages or something, but this seems >> more convenient. > >I think the stats are definitely needed if we keep the current code. >I've researched some specific problems in this code, such as the need >for more subtrans SLRU buffers; IIRC it was pretty painful to figure out >what the problem was without counters, and it'd have been trivial with >them. > Right. Improving our ability to monitor/measure things is the goal of this patch. >> I think it's unclear how desirable / necessary it is to allow users to >> tweak those caches. I don't think we should have a GUC for everything, >> but maybe there's some sort of heuristics to determine the size. The >> assumption is we actually find practical workloads where the size of >> these SLRUs is a performance issue. > >I expect we'll eventually realize the need for changes in this area. >Either configurability in the buffer pool sizes, or moving them to be >part of shared_buffers (IIRC Thomas Munro had a patch for this.) >Example: SLRUs like pg_commit and pg_subtrans have higher buffer >consumption as the range of open transactions increases; for many users >this is not a concern and they can live with the default values. > >(I think when pg_commit (née pg_clog) buffers were increased, we should >have increased pg_subtrans buffers to match.) > Quite possibly, yes. All I'm saying is that it's not something I intend to address with this patch. It's quite possible the solutions will be different for each SLRU, and that will require more research. regards -- Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services