Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk
Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
From: Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
To: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>
Cc: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>, Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>, "pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2020-07-24T19:16:48Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers, pgsql-docs
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:03:54AM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote:
>On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 8:19 AM Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
>> This is all really good analysis, I think, but this seems like the key
>> finding. It seems like we don't really understand what's actually
>> getting written. Whether we use hash or sort doesn't seem like it
>> should have this kind of impact on how much data gets written, and
>> whether we use CP_SMALL_TLIST or project when needed doesn't seem like
>> it should matter like this either.
>
>Isn't this more or less the expected behavior in the event of
>partitions that are spilled recursively? The case that Tomas tested
>were mostly cases where work_mem was tiny relative to the data being
>aggregated.
>
>The following is an extract from commit 1f39bce0215 showing some stuff
>added to the beginning of nodeAgg.c:
>
>+ * We also specify a min and max number of partitions per spill. Too few might
>+ * mean a lot of wasted I/O from repeated spilling of the same tuples. Too
>+ * many will result in lots of memory wasted buffering the spill files (which
>+ * could instead be spent on a larger hash table).
>+ */
>+#define HASHAGG_PARTITION_FACTOR 1.50
>+#define HASHAGG_MIN_PARTITIONS 4
>+#define HASHAGG_MAX_PARTITIONS 1024
>
Maybe, but we're nowhere close to these limits. See this table which I
posted earlier:
2MB Planned Partitions: 64 HashAgg Batches: 4160
4MB Planned Partitions: 128 HashAgg Batches: 16512
8MB Planned Partitions: 256 HashAgg Batches: 21488
64MB Planned Partitions: 32 HashAgg Batches: 2720
256MB Planned Partitions: 8 HashAgg Batches: 8
This is from the non-parallel runs on the i5 machine with 32GB data set,
the first column is work_mem. We're nowhere near the 1024 limit, and the
cardinality estimates are pretty good.
OTOH the number o batches is much higher, so clearly there was some
recursive spilling happening. What I find strange is that this grows
with work_mem and only starts dropping after 64MB.
Also, how could the amount of I/O be almost constant in all these cases?
Surely more recursive spilling should do more I/O, but the Disk Usage
reported by explain analyze does not show anything like ...
regards
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Commits
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Add hash_mem_multiplier GUC.
- d6c08e29e7bc 14.0 landed
- 78530c8e7a5a 13.0 landed
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HashAgg: use better cardinality estimate for recursive spilling.
- 3a232a3183d5 13.0 landed
- 9878b643f37b 14.0 landed
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Remove hashagg_avoid_disk_plan GUC.
- bcbf9446a298 14.0 landed
- 5a6cc6ffa914 13.0 landed
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Doc fixup for hashagg_avoid_disk_plan GUC.
- d33f33539d7f 13.0 landed
- 7ce461560159 14.0 landed
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Rework HashAgg GUCs.
- 13e0fa7ae50c 13.0 landed
- 92c58fd94801 14.0 landed
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Disk-based Hash Aggregation.
- 1f39bce02154 13.0 cited
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Implement partition-wise grouping/aggregation.
- e2f1eb0ee30d 11.0 cited
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Defer creation of partially-grouped relation until it's needed.
- 4f15e5d09de2 11.0 cited