Re: Default setting for enable_hashagg_disk (hash_mem)
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>
Cc: Peter Geoghegan <pg@bowt.ie>, Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, David Rowley <dgrowleyml@gmail.com>, Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>, Melanie Plageman <melanieplageman@gmail.com>, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Date: 2020-07-03T03:00:01Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers, pgsql-docs
On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 10:58:34PM -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote: > On Thu, Jul 2, 2020 at 09:46:49PM -0500, Justin Pryzby wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 02, 2020 at 07:05:48PM -0700, Peter Geoghegan wrote: > > > anything else). I still think that the new GUC should work as a > > > multiplier of work_mem, or something else along those lines, though > > > for now it's just an independent work_mem used for hashing. I bring it > > > up again because I'm concerned about users that upgrade to Postgres 13 > > > incautiously, and find that hashing uses *less* memory than before. > > > Many users probably get away with setting work_mem quite high across > > > the board. At the very least, hash_mem should be ignored when it's set > > > to below work_mem (which isn't what the patch does). > > > > I feel it should same as work_mem, as it's written, and not a multiplier. > > > > And actually I don't think a lower value should be ignored: "mechanism not > > policy". Do we refuse atypical values of maintenance_work_mem < work_mem ? > > > > I assumed that hash_mem would default to -1, which would mean "fall back to > > work_mem". We'd then advise users to increase it if they have an issue in v13 > > with performance of hashes spilled to disk. (And maybe in other cases, too.) > > Uh, with this patch, don't we really have sort_mem and hash_mem, but > hash_mem default to sort_mem, or something like that. If hash_mem is a > multiplier, it would make more sense to keep the work_mem name. Also, I feel this is all out of scope for PG 13, frankly. I think our only option is to revert the hash spill entirely, and return to PG 13 behavior, if people are too worried about hash performance regression. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> https://momjian.us EnterpriseDB https://enterprisedb.com The usefulness of a cup is in its emptiness, Bruce Lee
Commits
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Add hash_mem_multiplier GUC.
- d6c08e29e7bc 14.0 landed
- 78530c8e7a5a 13.0 landed
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HashAgg: use better cardinality estimate for recursive spilling.
- 3a232a3183d5 13.0 landed
- 9878b643f37b 14.0 landed
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Remove hashagg_avoid_disk_plan GUC.
- bcbf9446a298 14.0 landed
- 5a6cc6ffa914 13.0 landed
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Doc fixup for hashagg_avoid_disk_plan GUC.
- d33f33539d7f 13.0 landed
- 7ce461560159 14.0 landed
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Rework HashAgg GUCs.
- 13e0fa7ae50c 13.0 landed
- 92c58fd94801 14.0 landed
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Disk-based Hash Aggregation.
- 1f39bce02154 13.0 cited
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Implement partition-wise grouping/aggregation.
- e2f1eb0ee30d 11.0 cited
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Defer creation of partially-grouped relation until it's needed.
- 4f15e5d09de2 11.0 cited