Re: PATCH: logical_work_mem and logical streaming of large in-progress transactions
Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>
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Tighten the concurrent abort check during decoding.
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Improve hash_create()'s API for some added robustness.
- b3817f5f7746 14.0 landed
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Use HASH_BLOBS for xidhash.
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Fix initialization of RelationSyncEntry for streaming transactions.
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Remove unused function declaration in logicalproto.h.
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Add additional tests to test streaming of in-progress transactions.
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Fix inline marking introduced in commit 464824323e.
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Add support for streaming to built-in logical replication.
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Fix the SharedFileSetUnregister API.
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Fix comment in procarray.c
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Suppress compiler warning in non-cassert builds.
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Extend the BufFile interface.
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Mark a few logical decoding related variables with PGDLLIMPORT.
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Implement streaming mode in ReorderBuffer.
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Extend the logical decoding output plugin API with stream methods.
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WAL Log invalidations at command end with wal_level=logical.
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Immediately WAL-log subtransaction and top-level XID association.
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Allow logical replication to transfer data in binary format.
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Only superuser can set sslcert/sslkey in postgres_fdw user mappings
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Track statistics for spilling of changes from ReorderBuffer.
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Add logical_decoding_work_mem to limit ReorderBuffer memory usage.
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logical decoding: process ASSIGNMENT during snapshot build
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Emit invalidations to standby for transactions without xid.
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On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:01:48AM +0530, Dilip Kumar wrote: >On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 10:46 AM Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 1:18 PM Dilip Kumar <dilipbalaut@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > I have attempted to test the performance of (Stream + Spill) vs >> > (Stream + BGW pool) and I can see the similar gain what Alexey had >> > shown[1]. >> > >> > In addition to this, I have rebased the latest patchset [2] without >> > the two-phase logical decoding patch set. >> > >> > Test results: >> > I have repeated the same test as Alexy[1] for 1kk and 1kk data and >> > here is my result >> > Stream + Spill >> > N time on master(sec) Total xact time (sec) >> > 1kk 6 21 >> > 3kk 18 55 >> > >> > Stream + BGW pool >> > N time on master(sec) Total xact time (sec) >> > 1kk 6 13 >> > 3kk 19 35 >> > >> >> I think the test results for the master are missing. >Yeah, That time, I was planning to compare spill vs bgworker. > Also, how about >> running these tests over a network (means master and subscriber are >> not on the same machine)? > >Yeah, we should do that that will show the merit of streaming the >in-progress transactions. > Which I agree it's an interesting feature, I think we need to stop adding more stuff to this patch series - it's already complex enough, so making it even more (unnecessary) stuff is a distraction and will make it harder to get anything committed. Typical "scope creep". I think the current behavior (spill to file) is sufficient for v0 and can be improved later - that's fine. I don't think we need to bother with comparisons to master very much, because while it might be a bit slower in some cases, you can always disable streaming (so if there's a regression for your workload, you can undo that). > In general, yours and Alexy's test results >> show that there is merit by having workers applying such transactions. >> OTOH, as noted above [1], we are also worried about the performance >> of Rollbacks if we follow that approach. I am not sure how much we >> need to worry about Rollabcks if commits are faster, but can we think >> of recording the changes in memory and only write to a file if the >> changes are above a certain threshold? I think that might help saving >> I/O in many cases. I am not very sure if we do that how much >> additional workers can help, but they might still help. I think we >> need to do some tests and experiments to figure out what is the best >> approach? What do you think? >I agree with the point. I think we might need to do some small >changes and test to see what could be the best method to handle the >streamed changes at the subscriber end. > >> >> Tomas, Alexey, do you have any thoughts on this matter? I think it is >> important that we figure out the way to proceed in this patch. >> >> [1] - https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/b25ce80e-f536-78c8-d5c8-a5df3e230785%40postgrespro.ru >> > I think the patch should do the simplest thing possible, i.e. what it does today. Otherwise we'll never get it committed. regards -- Tomas Vondra http://www.2ndQuadrant.com PostgreSQL Development, 24x7 Support, Remote DBA, Training & Services