Re: [HACKERS] WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?
Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com>
On Thu, Aug 22, 2019 at 09:06:06PM +0900, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote: > At Mon, 19 Aug 2019 23:03:14 -0700, Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> wrote in <20190820060314.GA3086296@rfd.leadboat.com> > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 06:59:59PM +0900, Kyotaro Horiguchi wrote: > > > At Sat, 17 Aug 2019 20:52:30 -0700, Noah Misch <noah@leadboat.com> wrote in <20190818035230.GB3021338@rfd.leadboat.com> > > > > The https://postgr.es/m/559FA0BA.3080808@iki.fi design had another component > > > > not appearing here. It said, "Instead, at COMMIT, we'd fsync() the relation, > > > > or if it's smaller than some threshold, WAL-log the contents of the whole file > > > > at that point." Please write the part to WAL-log the contents of small files > > > > instead of syncing them. > > > > > > I'm not sure the point of the behavior. I suppose that the "log" > > > is a sequence of new_page records. It also needs to be synced and > > > it is always larger than the file to be synced. I can't think of > > > an appropriate threshold without the point. > > > > Yes, it would be a sequence of new-page records. FlushRelationBuffers() locks > > every buffer header containing a buffer of the current database. The belief > > has been that writing one page to xlog is cheaper than FlushRelationBuffers() > > in a busy system with large shared_buffers. > > I'm at a loss.. The decision between WAL and sync is made at > commit time, when we no longer have a pin on a buffer. When > emitting WAL, opposite to the assumption, lock needs to be > re-acquired for every page to emit log_new_page. What is worse, > we may need to reload evicted buffers. If the file has been > CopyFrom'ed, ring buffer strategy makes the situnation farther > worse. That doesn't seem cheap at all.. Consider a one-page relfilenode. Doing all the things you list for a single page may be cheaper than locking millions of buffer headers. > If there were any chance on WAL for smaller files here, it would > be on the files smaller than the ring size of bulk-write > strategy(16MB). Like you, I expect the optimal threshold is less than 16MB, though you should benchmark to see. Under the ideal threshold, when a transaction creates a new relfilenode just smaller than the threshold, that transaction will be somewhat slower than it would be if the threshold were zero. Locking every buffer header causes a distributed slow-down for other queries, and protecting the latency of non-DDL queries is typically more useful than accelerating TRUNCATE, CREATE TABLE, etc. Writing more WAL also slows down other queries; beyond a certain relfilenode size, the extra WAL harms non-DDL queries more than the buffer scan harms them. That's about where the threshold should be. This should be GUC-controlled, especially since this is back-patch material. We won't necessarily pick the best value on the first attempt, and the best value could depend on factors like the filesystem, the storage hardware, and the database's latency goals. One could define the GUC as an absolute size (e.g. 1MB) or as a ratio of shared_buffers (e.g. GUC value of 0.001 means the threshold is 1MB when shared_buffers is 1GB). I'm not sure which is better.
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Add perl2host call missing from a new test file.
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Skip WAL for new relfilenodes, under wal_level=minimal.
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- 9db4b9da2801 9.5.22 landed
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Revert "Skip WAL for new relfilenodes, under wal_level=minimal."
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Back-patch log_newpage_range().
- e0dd086414f7 9.5.22 landed
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During heap rebuild, lock any TOAST index until end of transaction.
- a8f754aea014 9.6.18 landed
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In log_newpage_range(), heed forkNum and page_std arguments.
- a5abec521c5d 12.3 landed
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Back-patch src/test/recovery and PostgresNode from 9.6 to 9.5.
- 12034da6cc39 9.5.22 landed
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Reduce pg_ctl's reaction time when waiting for postmaster start/stop.
- c61559ec3a41 10.0 cited
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Accelerate end-of-transaction dropping of relations
- 279628a0a7cf 9.3.0 cited
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Redesign the planner's handling of index-descent cost estimation.
- 31f38f28b00c 9.3.0 cited
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Make TRUNCATE do truncate-in-place when processing a relation that was created
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