Re: [Proposal] Table-level Transparent Data Encryption (TDE) and Key Management Service (KMS)
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Ryan Lambert <ryan@rustprooflabs.com>
Cc: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>, Joe Conway <mail@joeconway.com>, Antonin Houska <ah@cybertec.at>, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>, Tomas Vondra <tomas.vondra@2ndquadrant.com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Haribabu Kommi <kommi.haribabu@gmail.com>, "Moon, Insung" <Moon_Insung_i3@lab.ntt.co.jp>, Ibrar Ahmed <ibrar.ahmad@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2019-07-10T18:41:44Z
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 12:38:02PM -0600, Ryan Lambert wrote: > > what is it that gets stored in the page for > decryption use, the nonce or the IV derived from it? > > > I believe storing the IV is preferable and still secure per [1]: "The IV need > not be secret" > > Beyond needing the database oid, if every decrypt function has to regenerate > the IV from the nonce that will affect performance. I don't know how expensive > the forward hash is but it won't be free. Well, I think we have three options. We have 3 4-byte integers (pg_class.oid, LSN, page-number) that could be concatenated to be the IV, we could run those through a hash, or we could run them through the encryption function with the secret. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + As you are, so once was I. As I am, so you will be. + + Ancient Roman grave inscription +