Re: [HACKERS] Moving relation extension locks out of heavyweight lock manager
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
To: Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Cc: Mithun Cy <mithun.cy@enterprisedb.com>, Masahiko Sawada <sawada.mshk@gmail.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Thomas Munro <thomas.munro@enterprisedb.com>, Amit Kapila <amit.kapila16@gmail.com>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2018-03-01T19:17:30Z
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Allow page lock to conflict among parallel group members.
- 3ba59ccc896e 13.0 landed
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Allow relation extension lock to conflict among parallel group members.
- 85f6b49c2c53 13.0 landed
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Add assert to ensure that page locks don't participate in deadlock cycle.
- 72e78d831ab5 13.0 landed
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Assert that we don't acquire a heavyweight lock on another object after
- 15ef6ff4b985 13.0 landed
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Fix unsafe usage of strerror(errno) within ereport().
- 81256cd05f07 11.0 cited
Hi,
On 2018-01-04 11:39:40 -0500, Robert Haas wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 2, 2018 at 1:09 AM, Mithun Cy <mithun.cy@enterprisedb.com> wrote:
> > So in case of N_RELEXTLOCK_ENTS = 1 we can see regression as high 25%. ?
>
> So now the question is: what do these results mean for this patch?
> I think that the chances of someone simultaneously bulk-loading 16 or
> more relations that all happen to hash to the same relation extension
> lock bucket is pretty darn small.
I'm not convinced that that's true. Especially with partitioning in the
mix.
Also, birthday paradoxon and all that make collisions not that
unlikely. And you really don't need a 16 way conflict to feel pain,
you'll imo feel it earlier.
I think bumping up the size a bit would make that less likely. Not sure
it actually addresses the issue.
> However, if we take the position that no hash collision probability is
> low enough and that we must eliminate all chance of false collisions,
> except perhaps when the table is full, then we have to make this
> locking mechanism a whole lot more complicated. We can no longer
> compute the location of the lock we need without first taking some
> other kind of lock that protects the mapping from {db_oid, rel_oid} ->
> {memory address of the relevant lock}.
Hm, that's not necessarily true, is it? Wile not trivial, it also
doesn't seem impossible?
Greetings,
Andres Freund