Re: WAL logging problem in 9.4.3?
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
On 2015-07-09 19:06:11 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > What evidence have you got to base that value judgement on? > > cab9a0656c36739f was based on an actual user complaint, so we have good > evidence that there are people out there who care about the cost of > truncating a table many times in one transaction. On the other hand, > I know of no evidence that anyone's depending on multiple sequential > COPYs, nor intermixed COPY and INSERT, to be fast. The original argument > for having this COPY optimization at all was to make restoring pg_dump > scripts in a single transaction fast; and that use-case doesn't care > about anything but a single COPY into a virgin table. Well, you'll hardly have heard complaints about COPY, given that we behaved like currently for a long while. I definitely know of ETL like processes that have relied on subsequent COPYs into truncates relations being cheaper. Can't remember the same for intermixed COPY and INSERT, but it'd not surprise me if somebody mixed COPY and UPDATEs rather freely for ETL. > I think you're worrying about exactly the wrong case. > > > My tentative guess is that the best course is to > > a) Make heap_truncate_one_rel() create a new relfeilnode. That fixes the > > truncation replay issue. > > b) Force new pages to be used when using the heap_sync mode in > > COPY. That avoids the INIT danger you found. It seems rather > > reasonable to avoid using pages that have already been the target of > > WAL logging here in general. > > And what reason is there to think that this would fix all the > problems? Yea, that's the big problem. > Again, the only known field usage for the COPY optimization is the pg_dump > scenario; were that not so, we'd have noticed the problem long since. > So I don't have any faith that this is a well-tested area. You need to crash in the right moment. I don't think that's that frequently exercised...
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Add perl2host call missing from a new test file.
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Skip WAL for new relfilenodes, under wal_level=minimal.
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Revert "Skip WAL for new relfilenodes, under wal_level=minimal."
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Back-patch log_newpage_range().
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During heap rebuild, lock any TOAST index until end of transaction.
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In log_newpage_range(), heed forkNum and page_std arguments.
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Back-patch src/test/recovery and PostgresNode from 9.6 to 9.5.
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Reduce pg_ctl's reaction time when waiting for postmaster start/stop.
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Accelerate end-of-transaction dropping of relations
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Make TRUNCATE do truncate-in-place when processing a relation that was created
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