Re: Restore-reliability mode

On Mon, Jun  8, 2015 at 07:48:36PM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
> On 2015-06-08 13:44:05 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
> > I understand the overreaction/underreaction debate.  Here were my goals
> > in this discussion:
> > 
> > 1.  stop worry about the 9.5 timeline so we could honestly assess our
> >     software - *done*
> > 2.  seriously address multi-xact issues without 9.5/commit-fest pressure -
> >     *in process*
> > 3.  identify any other areas in need of serious work
> > 
> > While I like the list you provided, I don't think we can be effective in
> > an environment where we assume every big new features will have problems
> > like multi-xact.  For example, we have not seen destabilization from any
> > major 9.4 features, that I can remember anyway.
> > 
> > Unless there is consensus about new areas for #3, I am thinking we will
> > continue looking at multi-xact until we are happy, then move ahead with
> > 9.5 items in the way we have before.
> 
> I think one important part is that we (continue to?) regularly tell our
> employers that work on pre-commit, post-commit review, and refactoring
> are critical for their long term business prospects.  My impression so
> far is that that the employer side hasn't widely realized that fact, and
> that many contributors do the review etc. part in their spare time.

Agreed.  My bet is that more employers realize it now than they did a
few months ago --- kind of hard to miss all those minor releases and
customer complaints.  :-(

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