Re: Unsafe GUCs and ALTER SYSTEM WAS: Re: ALTER SYSTEM SET
Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
From: Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net>
To: Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>
Cc: Stefan Kaltenbrunner <stefan@kaltenbrunner.cc>,
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>, Greg Stark <stark@mit.edu>,
Andres Freund <andres@2ndquadrant.com>,
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@2ndquadrant.com>,
Fujii Masao <masao.fujii@gmail.com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>,
Amit Kapila <amit.kapila@huawei.com>,
Dimitri Fontaine <dimitri@2ndquadrant.fr>,
pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Date: 2013-08-05T18:44:28Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
* Josh Berkus (josh@agliodbs.com) wrote: > On 08/05/2013 11:14 AM, Stefan Kaltenbrunner wrote: > > * in a few years from now people will just use superuser over the > > network for almost all stuff "because its easy and I can click around in > > $gui", having potential "unsafe" operations available over the network > > will in turn cause a lot of actual downtime (in a lot of cases the > > reason why people want remote management is because the don't have > > physical/shell access - so if they break stuff they cannot fix) > > See thread "Disabling ALTER SYSTEM SET". I'm really not thrilled with this "solution". > However, there are other places where ALTER SYSTEM SET will be valuable. > For example, for anyone who wants to implement an autotuning utility. > For example, I'm writing a network utility which checks bgwriter stats > and tries adjusting settings over the network to improve checkpoint > issues. Not having to SSH configuration files into place (and make sure > they're not overridden by other configuration files) would make writing > that script a *lot* easier. Same thing with automated performance testing. I've done a fair bit of this myself and find templating postgresql.conf isn't really all that hard and comes in handy for a lot things, not to mention that it can then be integrated into a configuration management system more easily.. Still, I'm fine w/ parameters which don't depend on external things happening, which I think covers a lot of this use-case. Thanks, Stephen