Re: Need help understanding pg_locks
Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org>
Cc: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, PostgreSQL-development <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2011-07-13T15:41:50Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
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Florian Pflug wrote: > On Jul11, 2011, at 17:31 , Bruce Momjian wrote: > > Tom Lane wrote: > >> Florian Pflug <fgp@phlo.org> writes: > >>> On Jul11, 2011, at 17:11 , Tom Lane wrote: > >>>> Yeah, I think this patch is going in the wrong direction altogether. > >>>> It would be better to modify the description of virtualtransaction > >>>> and pid to say that those are the "locking" entity. > >> > >>> Hm, we already kinda of say that. Both descriptions include the phrase > >>> "... holding or awaiting this lock.". The column "mode" says > >>> "... held or desired by this process", which I guess is similar enough > >>> to make it clear that these are related. > >> > >>> Its the columns which refer to the locked object which simply say > >>> "object", and thus leave it open if that means locked or a locking. > >> > >>> Could we split that table in two parts, one for the fields referring > >>> to the locked object and one for the locking entity, or does that depart > >>> too far from the way we document other system catalogs and views? > >> > >> Then you'd have to join them, which would not be an improvement from > >> anybody's standpoint. > >> > >> Maybe we could just add a paragraph above the "pg_locks Columns" table > >> that says explicitly that virtualtransaction and pid describe the entity > >> holding or awaiting the lock, and the others describe the object being > >> locked? Any way you slice it, putting this information into the > >> per-column table is going to be repetitive. > > > > Frankly, whenever anyone says "object", they might as well call it > > "thing". It seems to be a content-less word. Maybe just replace the > > word "object" with "lock". > > I like that, as long as we make it ".. lock is/isn't *on* a ...", and not > just "... lock is/isn't a". After all, the lock very clearly isn't a > relation or xid or whatever - it's a, well, lock. > > We'd then have > OID of the database in which the lock exists, or zero if the lock is on a > shared object, or null if the lock is on a transaction ID. > > OID of the relation, or null if the lock is not on a relation or part of a > relation. > > ... > > ID of a transaction, or null if the lock is not on a transaction ID OK, I went with this wording, using "lock object is on" terminology. Applied patch attached --- adjustments welcomed. -- Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us> http://momjian.us EnterpriseDB http://enterprisedb.com + It's impossible for everything to be true. +