Re: pessimal trivial-update performance
Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
From: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>
To: pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org
Cc: "Pierre C" <lists@peufeu.com>, "Jesper Krogh" <jesper@krogh.cc>, "Tom Lane" <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, "Robert Haas" <robertmhaas@gmail.com>
Date: 2010-07-05T10:28:38Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On Monday 05 July 2010 12:11:38 Pierre C wrote: > > The problem can generally be written as "tuples seeing multiple > > updates in the same transaction"? > > > > I think that every time PostgreSQL is used with an ORM, there is > > a certain amount of multiple updates taking place. I have actually > > been reworking clientside to get around multiple updates, since they > > popped up in one of my profiling runs. Allthough the time I optimized > > away ended being both "roundtrip time" + "update time", but having > > the database do half of it transparently, might have been sufficient > > to get me to have had a bigger problem elsewhere.. > > > > To sum up. Yes I think indeed it is a real-world case. > > > > Jesper > > On the Python side, elixir and sqlalchemy have an excellent way of > handling this, basically when you start a transaction, all changes are > accumulated in a "session" object and only flushed to the database on > session commit (which is also generally the transaction commit). This has > multiple advantages, for instance it is able to issue multiple-line > statements, updates are only done once, you save a lot of roundtrips, etc. > Of course it is most of the time not compatible with database triggers, so > if there are triggers the ORM needs to be told about them. Its also not concurrency safe in many cases. Andres