Re: Rejecting weak passwords

Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>

From: Bruce Momjian <bruce@momjian.us>
To: Mark Mielke <mark@mark.mielke.cc>
Cc: Dave Page <dpage@pgadmin.org>, Ron Mayer <rm_pg@cheapcomplexdevices.com>, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>, Kevin Grittner <Kevin.Grittner@wicourts.gov>, Andrew Dunstan <andrew@dunslane.net>, Marko Kreen <markokr@gmail.com>, Magnus Hagander <magnus@hagander.net>, Greg Stark <gsstark@mit.edu>, pgsql-hackers <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>, mlortiz <mlortiz@uci.cu>, Albe Laurenz <laurenz.albe@wien.gv.at>
Date: 2009-10-16T17:40:24Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Mark Mielke wrote:
> > Personally I think the calculator/wires approach is better from an
> > engineering perspective, but it can be a handicap in the user experience
> > and checkbox categories --- ease of use is perhaps not our strong point.
> > Much of our open source value is being different, in both cost,
> > reliability, and configurability.
> 
> I found this true of a lot of tools. I still remember when the mutt 
> developers argued against putting IMAP in their solution because they 
> thought there might be a better "IMAP component" client out there. 
> Eventually, such arguments are dropped, as the practical sense on the 
> matter says that tight integration is a requirement.
> 
> I don't see how PostgreSQL has really failed in this regard. Maybe 
> Oracle comes out-of-box with more features - but this doesn't make it 
> necessarily a more "complete" solution - it just means it has more bells 
> and whistles. A bicycle doesn't need a ticking card mounted through the 
> spokes for it to be considered a "complete solution". :-) Somebody might 
> one day want that "feature" - but it's extra - it's not core.

Agreed.  Many commercial database solutions start to look like
Frankenstein with all the bolted-on components.

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