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Summer of Code Preparation

Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> — 2006-04-05T04:16:05Z

Folks,

I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We need to be 
ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the PostgreSQL project.  
Which means we need:

a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
b) Students to do them.

We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly 
desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me a line!

-- 
Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Jim C. Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com> — 2006-04-05T15:22:39Z

If nothing else, any of the 'beginner todo' items are likely  
candidates, though I suspect none of them individually are enough  
work for an entire summer.

If no one beats me to it, I'll try and compile a list of likely TODOs  
for this.

On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Folks,
>
> I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We  
> need to be
> ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the  
> PostgreSQL project.
> Which means we need:
>
> a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
> b) Students to do them.
>
> We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly
> desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me  
> a line!
>
> -- 
> Josh Berkus
> Aglio Database Solutions
> San Francisco
>
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Nathan Buchanan <nbinont@gmail.com> — 2006-04-05T17:44:01Z

A list of simpler TODOs would be great. I might be interested in doing
something (probably w/o the summer of code because I have a summer job).
We'll see after exams finish.

Please post something about where we can find this TODO list when it is
available.

Thanks,
Nathan

On 4/5/06, Jim Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com> wrote:
>
> If nothing else, any of the 'beginner todo' items are likely
> candidates, though I suspect none of them individually are enough
> work for an entire summer.
>
> If no one beats me to it, I'll try and compile a list of likely TODOs
> for this.
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We
> > need to be
> > ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the
> > PostgreSQL project.
> > Which means we need:
> >
> > a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
> > b) Students to do them.
> >
> > We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly
> > desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me
> > a line!
> >
> > --
> > Josh Berkus
> > Aglio Database Solutions
> > San Francisco
> >
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> >
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> >
>
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net> — 2006-04-05T20:35:59Z

Summer of Code projects dont have to revolve around the core project... for 
example drupal got like 11 projects last year and bricolage got a few too; I 
got a small list of items that could be looked at that are sort of 3rd party 
projects, should we attempt to collaborate on putting up a list some place?

Robert Treat

On Wednesday 05 April 2006 11:22, Jim Nasby wrote:
> If nothing else, any of the 'beginner todo' items are likely
> candidates, though I suspect none of them individually are enough
> work for an entire summer.
>
> If no one beats me to it, I'll try and compile a list of likely TODOs
> for this.
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We
> > need to be
> > ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the
> > PostgreSQL project.
> > Which means we need:
> >
> > a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
> > b) Students to do them.
> >
> > We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly
> > desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me
> > a line!
> >
> > --
> > Josh Berkus
> > Aglio Database Solutions
> > San Francisco
> >
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> > broadcast)---------------------------
> > TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
> >
> >                http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
>
> --
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com> — 2006-04-05T20:47:44Z

Robert,

> Summer of Code projects dont have to revolve around the core project...
> for example drupal got like 11 projects last year and bricolage got a
> few too; I got a small list of items that could be looked at that are
> sort of 3rd party projects, should we attempt to collaborate on putting
> up a list some place?

Sure, although the important part is to find students.  I'm not sure how we 
do that.

-- 
--Josh

Josh Berkus
Aglio Database Solutions
San Francisco

Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org> — 2006-04-05T21:04:06Z

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Josh Berkus wrote:

> Robert,
>
>> Summer of Code projects dont have to revolve around the core project...
>> for example drupal got like 11 projects last year and bricolage got a
>> few too; I got a small list of items that could be looked at that are
>> sort of 3rd party projects, should we attempt to collaborate on putting
>> up a list some place?
>
> Sure, although the important part is to find students.  I'm not sure how we
> do that.

Do we have any professors online?  How about anyone that works for Sun 
*wink*, who, I believe, have educational programs that we might be able to 
tap into?

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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

John DeSoi <desoi@pgedit.com> — 2006-04-06T00:04:32Z

On Apr 5, 2006, at 5:04 PM, Marc G. Fournier wrote:

>> Sure, although the important part is to find students.  I'm not  
>> sure how we
>> do that.
>
> Do we have any professors online?

I'm not one, but I know some. If there is a link with details and  
perhaps a list of possible projects, I'll be happy to spread the word.

John DeSoi, Ph.D.
http://pgedit.com/
Power Tools for PostgreSQL

Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Jim C. Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com> — 2006-04-06T02:31:20Z

One idea that comes to mind is to come up with a list of popular OSS  
projects that we'd like to see add PostgreSQL support and have  
students work on those...

As for finding students, I believe a call on -general and -announce  
would probably produce results. I know there's some professors on the  
lists (most likely to be on -general...)

On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Robert Treat wrote:

> Summer of Code projects dont have to revolve around the core  
> project... for
> example drupal got like 11 projects last year and bricolage got a  
> few too; I
> got a small list of items that could be looked at that are sort of  
> 3rd party
> projects, should we attempt to collaborate on putting up a list  
> some place?
>
> Robert Treat
>
> On Wednesday 05 April 2006 11:22, Jim Nasby wrote:
>> If nothing else, any of the 'beginner todo' items are likely
>> candidates, though I suspect none of them individually are enough
>> work for an entire summer.
>>
>> If no one beats me to it, I'll try and compile a list of likely TODOs
>> for this.
>>
>> On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>> Folks,
>>>
>>> I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We
>>> need to be
>>> ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the
>>> PostgreSQL project.
>>> Which means we need:
>>>
>>> a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
>>> b) Students to do them.
>>>
>>> We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly
>>> desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me
>>> a line!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Josh Berkus
>>> Aglio Database Solutions
>>> San Francisco
>>>
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>>> broadcast)---------------------------
>>> TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
>>>
>>>                http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
>>
>> --
>> Jim C. Nasby, Sr. Engineering Consultant      jnasby@pervasive.com
>> Pervasive Software      http://pervasive.com    work: 512-231-6117
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> Robert Treat
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Jim C. Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com> — 2006-04-06T02:31:49Z

 From the main website, hit developers, roadmap and then the TODO  
link on that page.

On Apr 5, 2006, at 1:44 PM, Nathan Buchanan wrote:

> A list of simpler TODOs would be great. I might be interested in  
> doing something (probably w/o the summer of code because I have a  
> summer job). We'll see after exams finish.
>
> Please post something about where we can find this TODO list when  
> it is available.
>
> Thanks,
> Nathan
>
> On 4/5/06, Jim Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com> wrote: If nothing else,  
> any of the 'beginner todo' items are likely
> candidates, though I suspect none of them individually are enough
> work for an entire summer.
>
> If no one beats me to it, I'll try and compile a list of likely TODOs
> for this.
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
> > Folks,
> >
> > I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We
> > need to be
> > ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the
> > PostgreSQL project.
> > Which means we need:
> >
> > a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
> > b) Students to do them.
> >
> > We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly
> > desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me
> > a line!
> >
> > --
> > Josh Berkus
> > Aglio Database Solutions
> > San Francisco
> >
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> > broadcast)---------------------------
> > TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
> >
> >                http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
> >
>
> --
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@postgresql.org> — 2006-04-06T02:55:15Z

On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Jim Nasby wrote:

> One idea that comes to mind is to come up with a list of popular OSS projects 
> that we'd like to see add PostgreSQL support and have students work on 
> those...

As nice an idea as this is, we'd also need to quickly co-ordinate with 
those projects to make sure that there is a semblance of a chance of 
having those patches included in their distribution ... I realize that the 
Code of Summer program doesn't need a guarantee that the code will be 
committed, but if we're going to do something like the above, would rather 
see it done for projects that wanted the end results ...



  >
> As for finding students, I believe a call on -general and -announce would 
> probably produce results. I know there's some professors on the lists (most 
> likely to be on -general...)
>
> On Apr 5, 2006, at 4:35 PM, Robert Treat wrote:
>
>> Summer of Code projects dont have to revolve around the core project... for
>> example drupal got like 11 projects last year and bricolage got a few too; 
>> I
>> got a small list of items that could be looked at that are sort of 3rd 
>> party
>> projects, should we attempt to collaborate on putting up a list some place?
>> 
>> Robert Treat
>> 
>> On Wednesday 05 April 2006 11:22, Jim Nasby wrote:
>>> If nothing else, any of the 'beginner todo' items are likely
>>> candidates, though I suspect none of them individually are enough
>>> work for an entire summer.
>>> 
>>> If no one beats me to it, I'll try and compile a list of likely TODOs
>>> for this.
>>> 
>>> On Apr 5, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>> Folks,
>>>> 
>>>> I've been warned that Summer of Code is coming up again soon.  We
>>>> need to be
>>>> ready with proposals which are officially endorsed by the
>>>> PostgreSQL project.
>>>> Which means we need:
>>>> 
>>>> a) Projects which could be accomplished in a summer, and
>>>> b) Students to do them.
>>>> 
>>>> We have one or two weeks to get this together.  Your help is greatly
>>>> desired .. and if you're a CS student hacker reading this, drop me
>>>> a line!
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> Josh Berkus
>>>> Aglio Database Solutions
>>>> San Francisco
>>>> 
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>>>> broadcast)---------------------------
>>>> TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ?
>>>>
>>>>               http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
>>> 
>>> --
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Qingqing Zhou <zhouqq@cs.toronto.edu> — 2006-04-06T03:24:08Z

"Josh Berkus" <josh@agliodbs.com> wrote
>
> Sure, although the important part is to find students.  I'm not sure how
we
> do that.
>

I noticed two email domains are @mit.edu and @cs.toronto.edu but I am afraid
both of them are not students any more :-)

Regards,
Qingqing

Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Jim C. Nasby <jnasby@pervasive.com> — 2006-04-06T11:31:01Z

On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 11:55:15PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Jim Nasby wrote:
> 
> >One idea that comes to mind is to come up with a list of popular OSS 
> >projects that we'd like to see add PostgreSQL support and have students 
> >work on those...
> 
> As nice an idea as this is, we'd also need to quickly co-ordinate with 
> those projects to make sure that there is a semblance of a chance of 
> having those patches included in their distribution ... I realize that the 
> Code of Summer program doesn't need a guarantee that the code will be 
> committed, but if we're going to do something like the above, would rather 
> see it done for projects that wanted the end results ...

Absolutely, though we can't do that without a list of possibilities
first. People want to start throwing out names? (I can't really think of
any off the top of my head, other than OpenQRM, but I have ulterior
motives for that one so perhaps my vote shouldn't count. :) )
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Re: Summer of Code Preparation

Patrick Welche <prlw1@newn.cam.ac.uk> — 2006-04-06T16:39:37Z

On Thu, Apr 06, 2006 at 06:31:01AM -0500, Jim C. Nasby wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 11:55:15PM -0300, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
> > On Wed, 5 Apr 2006, Jim Nasby wrote:
> > 
> > >One idea that comes to mind is to come up with a list of popular OSS 
> > >projects that we'd like to see add PostgreSQL support and have students 
> > >work on those...
> > 
> > As nice an idea as this is, we'd also need to quickly co-ordinate with 
> > those projects to make sure that there is a semblance of a chance of 
> > having those patches included in their distribution ... I realize that the 
> > Code of Summer program doesn't need a guarantee that the code will be 
> > committed, but if we're going to do something like the above, would rather 
> > see it done for projects that wanted the end results ...
> 
> Absolutely, though we can't do that without a list of possibilities
> first. People want to start throwing out names? (I can't really think of
> any off the top of my head, other than OpenQRM, but I have ulterior
> motives for that one so perhaps my vote shouldn't count. :) )

Was that throw out names for projects? How about Postgres-R for PostgreSQL-8?
Even if nothing comes out of it, both databases and group communications
are excellent CS topics for a student.

Cheers,

Patrick