Re: [HACKERS] Release cycle length

----- Original-Nachricht -----
Von: "Michael Glaesemann" <grzm@myrealbox.com>
An:  <webmaster@letzplay.de>
CC: neilc@samurai.com, scrappy@postgresql.org, pgsql-www@postgresql.org
Datum: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 01:32 PM
Betreff: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Release cycle length

> On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, at 05:13 PM, Andreas Grabmüller wrote:
> 
> > ----- Original-Nachricht -----
> > Von: "Marc G. Fournier" <scrappy@postgresql.org>
> > An: Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com>
> > CC: pgsql-www@postgresql.org, PostgreSQL Development 
> > <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
> > Datum: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 05:06 AM
> > Betreff: [pgsql-www] [HACKERS] Release cycle length
> >
> >> On Mon, 17 Nov 2003, Neil Conway wrote:
> >>
> >>> That said, I'm not really sure how we can make better use of the beta
> >>> period. One obvious improvement would be making the beta 
> >>> announcements
> >>> more visible: the obscurity of the beta process on www.postgresql.org
> >>> for 7.4 was pretty ridiculous. Does anyone else have a suggestion on
> >>> what we can do to produce a more reliable .0 release in less time?
> >>
> >> Agreed ... here's a thought ...
> >>
> >> take the download page and break it into two pages:
> >>
> >> page 1: broken down into "dev" vs "stable" versions, including the 
> >> date of
> >> release ...
> >>
> >> page 2: when you click on the version you want to download, it brings 
> >> you
> >> to a subpage that is what the main page currently is (with all the 
> >> flags
> >> and such) but instead of just sending ppl to the ftp site itself, 
> >> actually
> >> have the link go to the directory that contains that version on the 
> >> mirror
> >> site ...
> >>
> >> that first page of the download could contain descriptoins of the 
> >> variosu
> >> releases, and state of releases?
> >>
> >> ---------------------------(end of 
> >> broadcast)---------------------------
> >> TIP 4: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
> >
> > We could also use some download page similar to the one on 
> > httpd.apache.org - first you select a mirror (and one near you has 
> > been preselected) and under it you get a list of possible downloads... 
> > might be easier for the users than browsing through FTP...
> 
>  From a users' standpoint, do you think the users are looking for a 
> mirror or for software? Maybe put the download first, then a selection 
> of mirrors. I haven't done a lot of downloading, so my perspective 
> might be a little off. And advantage of the mirror > download order 
> would be if people are downloading more than one item at a time. Then 
> they wouldn't have to go back to choose another download. However, once 
> they choose the mirror (and commence the download) a page could come up 
> offering the option to download more from this mirror.
> 
> Just some thoughts.
> Michael

Have you looked at the apache download site? I think it's goot (of course, we can put the mirror chooser under the download links - it doesn't matter for the functionality as always a different (random?) server gets preselected automatically...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Andreas Grabmüller

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On Tuesday, November 18, 2003, at 10:32 PM, Andreas Grabm=FCller wrote:
> Have you looked at the apache download site? I think it's goot (of=20
> course, we can put the mirror chooser under the download links - it=20
> doesn't matter for the functionality as always a different (random?)=20
> server gets preselected automatically...

Yes, I did. I thought it was pretty good. Nice and clean. And I like=20
how it chooses a server. I don't know how it selects. You could do it=20
by location (nearness to the client ip), server load (weight those with=20
lower server load). I'm sure there are other ways as well.

I have seen examples where you choose the download, then the server. I=20
wish I can think of one right now...

Michael