Re: 7.4?
Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
From: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>
To: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net>, Neil Conway <neilc@samurai.com>, Robert Treat <xzilla@users.sourceforge.net>, Ericson Smith <eric@did-it.com>, Bruno Wolff III <bruno@wolff.to>, Dmitry Tkach <dmitry@openratings.com>, PostgreSQL General <pgsql-general@postgresql.org>
Date: 2003-03-06T17:05:35Z
Lists: pgsql-general
Tom Lane wrote: > Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes: > > Also, as discussed in 7.3, I vote against a feature freeze that is > > significantly earlier (>2 weeks) from the start of beta. We did that > > for 7.2, and it paralized the end of the developement period. > > The problem there was not the feature freeze, it was that we kept > slipping the beta date while we waited around for certain items > to get done. The lesson I take away from the past couple releases > is that you set a target beta date and then stick to it; features > that aren't in on time don't get extensions. OK, let's follow that logic. Do we have enough to justify a release without any of those features? I don't think so. > In other words, we shouldn't be waving our hands and saying "there's > still plenty of time for these things to happen for 7.4". There's > not, unless we go back to the previous philosophy of "we'll slip > the release as long as it takes for something to happen". I think > it's past time to light a fire under the folks who are supposedly > doing these items. I do remember in 7.2 an attempt to come to a controlled slowdown 4-6 weeks before we even planned on starting beta. The later problem was that beta start was one month late, and then dragged, so there were multiple problems with that release: stop features late July, early August; beta scheduled September 1, started October 1; then dragged waiting for fixes rather than backing out features. -- Bruce Momjian | http://candle.pha.pa.us pgman@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup. | Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073