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  1. linux/bsd

    Richard Boyes <r.boyes@auckland.ac.nz> — 2001-04-08T23:00:04Z

    Hello all,
    
    I'm in the process of making some decisions as to 
    what OS I should be using for a product that development
    will begin on soon. It's a web based thing using postgres,
    apache etc and will be all on one machine.
    
    My question is to what operating system would be a better
    one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    
    I know postgres works fine on both but some opinion
    from the postgres developer community as to which OS 
    they prefer would have a bearing on this decision.
    
    PS sorry in advance for posting a question that might 
       spark a lot of opinions.
    
    Thanks
    Richard.
    
    
  2. Re: linux/bsd

    Brett W. McCoy <bmccoy@chapelperilous.net> — 2001-04-09T00:54:26Z

    On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Richard Boyes wrote:
    
    > I'm in the process of making some decisions as to
    > what OS I should be using for a product that development
    > will begin on soon. It's a web based thing using postgres,
    > apache etc and will be all on one machine.
    >
    > My question is to what operating system would be a better
    > one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    >
    > I know postgres works fine on both but some opinion
    > from the postgres developer community as to which OS
    > they prefer would have a bearing on this decision.
    
    I've only used it on Linux, so I can only vouch for that.  BSD has a
    better reputation for stability and robustness, so for the ultimate
    server, BSD may be your best choice (this isn't to say Linux is stable and
    robust, because it is).  You will find better hardware support for Linux,
    because there is more stuff that will run under Linux than will run under
    FreeBSD.
    
    This is probably not at ahll helpful!  I'd say just pick one and go with
    it.
    
    -- Brett
    				   http://www.chapelperilous.net/btfwk/
    ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    A rolling stone gathers momentum.
    
    
    
  3. Re: linux/bsd

    Justin Clift <jclift@iprimus.com.au> — 2001-04-09T02:06:15Z

    Hi Richard,
    
    Solaris 8 INTEL is very stable and free for commercial use :
    http://www.sun.com/solaris/
    
    You can download it directly from the web too (full version, no timeouts
    or anything holding back):
    http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/download.html
    
    It's kind of picky about which hardware it will work on though.  There
    is a list at :
    http://soldc.sun.com/support/drivers/hcl/8/101/BOOK.htm
    
    If you have hardware it likes, I'd go with Solaris INTEL, otherwise one
    of the BSD crowd (known for stability) or Linux.
    
    Regards and best wishes,
    
    Justin Clift
    
    Richard Boyes wrote:
    > 
    > Hello all,
    > 
    > I'm in the process of making some decisions as to
    > what OS I should be using for a product that development
    > will begin on soon. It's a web based thing using postgres,
    > apache etc and will be all on one machine.
    > 
    > My question is to what operating system would be a better
    > one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    > 
    > I know postgres works fine on both but some opinion
    > from the postgres developer community as to which OS
    > they prefer would have a bearing on this decision.
    > 
    > PS sorry in advance for posting a question that might
    >    spark a lot of opinions.
    > 
    > Thanks
    > Richard.
    > 
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    first group; there was less competition there."
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  4. Re: linux/bsd

    Marc Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 2001-04-09T02:51:38Z

    On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Justin Clift wrote:
    
    > Hi Richard,
    >
    > Solaris 8 INTEL is very stable and free for commercial use :
    > http://www.sun.com/solaris/
    >
    > You can download it directly from the web too (full version, no timeouts
    > or anything holding back):
    > http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/download.html
    >
    > It's kind of picky about which hardware it will work on though.  There
    > is a list at :
    > http://soldc.sun.com/support/drivers/hcl/8/101/BOOK.htm
    >
    > If you have hardware it likes, I'd go with Solaris INTEL, otherwise one
    > of the BSD crowd (known for stability) or Linux.
    
    Based on my personal experiences (University I work at is predominantly
    Solaris based for Unix .. .slowly shifting *muhahaha*) ... Solaris INTEL
    is one of the worst OSs I've had the misfortune to deal with :(  Ppl
    complain about how the BSD OSs don't support as much hardware as Linux,
    but Solaris takes the cake in that department ... you have to go to
    Adaptec's web site to get drives if you want to use a U160 SCSI
    controller, as *it* isn't supported :(
    
    
    
     >
    > Regards and best wishes,
    >
    > Justin Clift
    >
    > Richard Boyes wrote:
    > >
    > > Hello all,
    > >
    > > I'm in the process of making some decisions as to
    > > what OS I should be using for a product that development
    > > will begin on soon. It's a web based thing using postgres,
    > > apache etc and will be all on one machine.
    > >
    > > My question is to what operating system would be a better
    > > one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    > >
    > > I know postgres works fine on both but some opinion
    > > from the postgres developer community as to which OS
    > > they prefer would have a bearing on this decision.
    > >
    > > PS sorry in advance for posting a question that might
    > >    spark a lot of opinions.
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > > Richard.
    > >
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    >
    > --
    > "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
    > who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
    > first group; there was less competition there."
    >      - Indira Gandhi
    >
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    Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
    Systems Administrator @ hub.org
    primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
    
    
    
  5. Re: linux/bsd

    Chris Jones <chris@mt.sri.com> — 2001-04-09T15:46:31Z

    On Mon, Apr 09, 2001 at 11:00:04AM +1200, Richard Boyes wrote:
    
    > My question is to what operating system would be a better
    > one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    
    As far as PG is concerned, it doesn't really matter; PG will run very
    nicely on any unix.  In my experience, Sun's machines have better I/O
    than anybody's PCs, but you pay a price for that.  Also, PG will
    probably run just fine on a cheap commodity PC -- an expensive PC
    should do even better.
    
    You should probably choose your OS based on the OS itself, not on PG.
    Basically, what are you going to be able to manage most effectively?
    For me, the clear choice is NetBSD.  For others, the choice is
    different.  But the reliability of your database is going to depend on
    the reliability of your OS, which is going to depend (partially) on
    how familiar and comfortable you are with it.
    
    Chris
    
    -- 
    chris@mt.sri.com -----------------------------------------------------
    Chris Jones                                    SRI International, Inc.
                                                               www.sri.com
    
  6. Re: linux/bsd

    Peter Eisentraut <peter_e@gmx.net> — 2001-04-09T16:33:01Z

    Richard Boyes writes:
    
    > My question is to what operating system would be a better
    > one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    
    More important things to worry about are a fast disk, a modern file
    system, lots of memory, lots of CPU.  The operating system ends up being a
    matter of taste mostly.
    
    -- 
    Peter Eisentraut      peter_e@gmx.net       http://yi.org/peter-e/
    
    
    
  7. Re: linux/bsd

    Justin Clift <jclift@iprimus.com.au> — 2001-04-09T17:07:01Z

    Hi Marc,
    
    No argument there.  Solaris 8 is a LOT better then previous versions in
    regards to driver support, but still a long way behind *BSD, linux,
    Windows, etc.
    
    BUT, if you've got hardware it DOES work on... it's really nice.
    
    Regards and best wishes,
    
    Justin Clift
    
    The Hermit Hacker wrote:
    > 
    > On Mon, 9 Apr 2001, Justin Clift wrote:
    > 
    > > Hi Richard,
    > >
    > > Solaris 8 INTEL is very stable and free for commercial use :
    > > http://www.sun.com/solaris/
    > >
    > > You can download it directly from the web too (full version, no timeouts
    > > or anything holding back):
    > > http://www.sun.com/software/solaris/binaries/download.html
    > >
    > > It's kind of picky about which hardware it will work on though.  There
    > > is a list at :
    > > http://soldc.sun.com/support/drivers/hcl/8/101/BOOK.htm
    > >
    > > If you have hardware it likes, I'd go with Solaris INTEL, otherwise one
    > > of the BSD crowd (known for stability) or Linux.
    > 
    > Based on my personal experiences (University I work at is predominantly
    > Solaris based for Unix .. .slowly shifting *muhahaha*) ... Solaris INTEL
    > is one of the worst OSs I've had the misfortune to deal with :(  Ppl
    > complain about how the BSD OSs don't support as much hardware as Linux,
    > but Solaris takes the cake in that department ... you have to go to
    > Adaptec's web site to get drives if you want to use a U160 SCSI
    > controller, as *it* isn't supported :(
    > 
    >  >
    > > Regards and best wishes,
    > >
    > > Justin Clift
    > >
    > > Richard Boyes wrote:
    > > >
    > > > Hello all,
    > > >
    > > > I'm in the process of making some decisions as to
    > > > what OS I should be using for a product that development
    > > > will begin on soon. It's a web based thing using postgres,
    > > > apache etc and will be all on one machine.
    > > >
    > > > My question is to what operating system would be a better
    > > > one to use for postgres. ie linux/bsd.
    > > >
    > > > I know postgres works fine on both but some opinion
    > > > from the postgres developer community as to which OS
    > > > they prefer would have a bearing on this decision.
    > > >
    > > > PS sorry in advance for posting a question that might
    > > >    spark a lot of opinions.
    > > >
    > > > Thanks
    > > > Richard.
    > > >
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    > >
    > > --
    > > "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
    > > who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
    > > first group; there was less competition there."
    > >      - Indira Gandhi
    > >
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    > 
    > Marc G. Fournier                   ICQ#7615664               IRC Nick: Scrappy
    > Systems Administrator @ hub.org
    > primary: scrappy@hub.org           secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org
    
    -- 
    "My grandfather once told me that there are two kinds of people: those
    who work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the
    first group; there was less competition there."
         - Indira Gandhi