Re: rules on INSERT can't UPDATE new instance?

> Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us> writes:
> > I thought an INSERT rule with an UPDATE action would work on the same
> > table, but that fails.  Seems the rule is firing before the INSERT
> > happens.
> 
> Yes, a trigger is the right way to do surgery on a tuple before it is
> stored.  Rules are good for generating additional SQL queries that will
> insert/update/delete other tuples (usually, but not necessarily, in
> other tables).  Even if it worked, a rule would be a horribly
> inefficient way to handle modification of the about-to-be-inserted
> tuple, because (being an independent query) it'd have to scan the table
> to find the tuple you are talking about!
> 
> The reason the additional queries are done before the original command
> is explained thus in the source code:
> 
> 	 * The original query is appended last if not instead
> 	 * because update and delete rule actions might not do
> 	 * anything if they are invoked after the update or
> 	 * delete is performed. The command counter increment
> 	 * between the query execution makes the deleted (and
> 	 * maybe the updated) tuples disappear so the scans
> 	 * for them in the rule actions cannot find them.
> 
> This seems to make sense for UPDATE/DELETE, but I wonder whether
> the ordering should be different for the INSERT case: perhaps it
> should be original-query-first in that case.
> 

Thanks, Tom.  I was writing the Trigger section of my book the past few
days, and this helped me define when to use rules and when to use
triggers.


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