Re: Built-in CTYPE provider
Jeff Davis <pgsql@j-davis.com>
On Sat, 2024-06-29 at 15:08 -0700, Noah Misch wrote: > lower(), initcap(), upper(), and regexp_matches() are > PROVOLATILE_IMMUTABLE. > Until now, we've delegated that responsibility to the user. The user > is > supposed to somehow never update libc or ICU in a way that changes > outcomes > from these functions. To me, "delegated" connotes a clear and organized transfer of responsibility to the right person to solve it. In that sense, I disagree that we've delegated it. What's happened here is evolution of various choices that seemed reasonable at the time. Unfortunately, the consequences that are hard for us to manage and even harder for users to manage themselves. > Now that postgresql.org is taking that responsibility > for builtin C.UTF-8, how should we govern it? I think the above text > and [1] > convey that we'll update the Unicode data between major versions, > making > functions like lower() effectively STABLE. Is that right? Marking them STABLE is not a viable option, that would break a lot of valid use cases, e.g. an index on LOWER(). Unicode already has its own governance, including a stability policy that includes case mapping: https://www.unicode.org/policies/stability_policy.html#Case_Pair Granted, that policy does not guarantee that the results will never change. In particular, the results can change if using unassinged code poitns that are later assigned to Cased characters. That's not terribly common though; for instance, there are zero changes in uppercase/lowercase behavior between Unicode 14.0 (2021) and 15.1 (current) -- even for code points that were unassigned in 14.0 and later assigned. I checked this by modifying case_test.c to look at unassigned code points as well. There's a greater chance that character properties can change (e.g. whether a character is "alphabetic" or not) in new releases of Unicode. Such properties can affect regex character classifications, and in some cases the results of initcap (because it uses the "alphanumeric" classification to determine word boundaries). I don't think we need code changes for 17. Some documentation changes might be helpful, though. Should we have a note around LOWER()/UPPER() that users should REINDEX any dependent indexes when the provider is updated? > (This thread had some discussion[2] that datcollversion/collversion > won't > necessarily change when a major versions changes lower() behavior.) datcollversion/collversion track the vertsion of the collation specifically (text ordering only), not the ctype (character semantics). When using the libc provider, get_collation_actual_version() completely ignores the ctype. It would be interesting to consider tracking the versions separately, though. Regards, Jeff Davis
Commits
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Support PG_UNICODE_FAST locale in the builtin collation provider.
- d3d098316913 18.0 landed
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Support Unicode full case mapping and conversion.
- 286a365b9c25 18.0 landed
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Fix test failures when language environment is not UTF-8.
- e2a235767180 17.0 landed
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Add unicode_strtitle() for Unicode Default Case Conversion.
- 46e5441fa536 17.0 landed
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Use version for builtin collations.
- 46a44dc37203 17.0 landed
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Fix convert_case(), introduced in 5c40364dd6.
- 503c0ad976f5 17.0 landed
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Inline basic UTF-8 functions.
- 9acae56ce0b0 17.0 landed
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Support C.UTF-8 locale in the new builtin collation provider.
- f69319f2f1fb 17.0 landed
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Fix another warning, introduced by 846311051e.
- 60769c62dc85 17.0 landed
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Address more review comments on commit 2d819a08a1.
- 846311051e8f 17.0 landed
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Fix unreachable code warning from commit 2d819a08a1.
- 61f352ece9e7 17.0 landed
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Introduce "builtin" collation provider.
- 2d819a08a1cb 17.0 landed
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Catalog changes preparing for builtin collation provider.
- f696c0cd5f29 17.0 landed
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Unicode case mapping tables and functions.
- 5c40364dd6d9 17.0 landed
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Add Unicode property tables.
- ad49994538c5 17.0 landed
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Documentation update for Standard Collations.
- 875e46a0a246 17.0 landed
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Cleanup for unicode-update build target and test.
- cf64d4e99f64 17.0 landed
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Shrink Unicode category table.
- 719b342d36ce 17.0 landed
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Make some error strings more generic
- 36a14afc0760 17.0 cited
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pg_upgrade: copy locale and encoding information to new cluster.
- 9637badd9f92 16.0 cited
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Update Unicode data to Unicode 15.0.0
- 1091b48cd761 16.0 cited
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Create a new type category for "internal use" types.
- 07eee5a0dc64 15.0 cited