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Status on Jan Wieck
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> — 1999-09-20T13:35:51Z
I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Vadim Mikheev <vadim@krs.ru> — 1999-09-20T13:40:45Z
Bruce Momjian wrote: > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? Vadim
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> — 1999-09-20T14:12:04Z
> Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? OK, let's CC him with the question. Jan, can you do referential integrity for 6.6? -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> — 1999-09-20T15:33:29Z
> Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? Jan, you know we miss you when you have your own subject thread on the hackers list. -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Jan Wieck <jwieck@debis.com> — 1999-09-20T16:57:09Z
> > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #========================================= wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) # -
Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Vadim Mikheev <vadim@krs.ru> — 1999-09-20T17:23:56Z
Jan Wieck wrote: > > > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? > > Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. Well, I believe that we have at least 3 months before 1st beta. We need in DIRTY READs for RI and I'll implement them. If you'll not be able to do RI itself then we might change refint.c to use DIRTY READs and so avoid LOCK TABLE on application level (i.e. restore pre-6.5 refint.c using). Vadim
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> — 1999-09-20T17:39:19Z
> > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? > > Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. You tell us... We clearly could wait if you have some idea on a timeframe. There has been no talk of a 6.6 release schedule yet. Vadim is still working on logging, and Tom Lane is working too. -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> — 1999-09-20T18:14:51Z
> > Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. > > Well, I believe that we have at least 3 months before 1st beta. > We need in DIRTY READs for RI and I'll implement them. > If you'll not be able to do RI itself then we might > change refint.c to use DIRTY READs and so avoid LOCK TABLE > on application level (i.e. restore pre-6.5 refint.c using). Yikes. Three months. That puts us at release in mid-January. -- Bruce Momjian | http://www.op.net/~candle maillist@candle.pha.pa.us | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup. | Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
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Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Peter Mount <peter@retep.org.uk> — 1999-09-20T18:50:43Z
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > > > > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? > > > > Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. > > You tell us... We clearly could wait if you have some idea on a > timeframe. There has been no talk of a 6.6 release schedule yet. Vadim > is still working on logging, and Tom Lane is working too. I want to get as much of the JDBC api done for 6.6 as well, so I think there is going to be a lot of new stuff in it. Peter -- Peter T Mount peter@retep.org.uk Main Homepage: http://www.retep.org.uk PostgreSQL JDBC Faq: http://www.retep.org.uk/postgres Java PDF Generator: http://www.retep.org.uk/pdf -
Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Marc G. Fournier <scrappy@hub.org> — 1999-09-20T21:29:09Z
On Mon, 20 Sep 1999, Jan Wieck wrote: > > > > Bruce Momjian wrote: > > > > > > I know people were wondering about Jan, so I just talked to him via > > > e-mail, and he has been busy on a big project. > > > > Is he going to implement RI for 6.6? > > Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. After you implement RI? :) Since we've gone the -STABLE branch fixes/releases route, 6.6 is less of a panic, so if you have some sort of a timeline for this, its *very* easy to work around it :) Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org -
Re: [HACKERS] Status on Jan Wieck
Jan Wieck <wieck@debis.com> — 1999-09-21T09:11:22Z
> > > > Depends on WHEN 6.6 is planned to go into feature-freeze. > > > > Well, I believe that we have at least 3 months before 1st beta. > > We need in DIRTY READs for RI and I'll implement them. > > If you'll not be able to do RI itself then we might > > change refint.c to use DIRTY READs and so avoid LOCK TABLE > > on application level (i.e. restore pre-6.5 refint.c using). > > Yikes. Three months. That puts us at release in mid-January. Three months - sounds fine. I just posted another few ideas on the issue. After rereading it, I'm sure now that doing RI with the rulesystem would open a horrible can of worms. Especially in the case a trigger procedure is using a query which in turn triggers a deferred rule. Each trigger invocation (maybe for thousands of rows) will execute it's own queries, resulting in a separate parsetree for the deferred actions. Where to hold them? Parsetrees can be huge! I'm sure now that remembering the CTID's of the tuples that must get reread to fire the trigger is the smaller problem. I need a little break in my current project - thus I'll take a look at it NOW! Jan -- #======================================================================# # It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than for being right. # # Let's break this rule - forgive me. # #========================================= wieck@debis.com (Jan Wieck) #