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  1. cnf-ify problem

    Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us> — 1998-02-09T17:49:58Z

    Here is a bug report that outlines out cnf-ify problem.  Looks like we
    need a general solution, not just for subselects.
    
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    > Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 15:53:18 -0500
    > From: David Hartwig <daveh@insightdist.com>
    > Organization: Insight Distribution Systems
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    > To: Bruce Momjian <maillist@candle.pha.pa.us>
    > Subject: Re: [BUGS] General Bug Report: palloc fails with lots of ANDs and ORs
    > References: <199801121635.LAA05002@candle.pha.pa.us>
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    > Bruce,
    > 
    > I did some homework.   Here is what I have.   The default max data segment size on our (AIX 4.1.4) box is around 130000 kbytes.
    > 
    > I put together a query which put me just past the threshold of the palloc "out of memory error".  It is as follows:
    > 
    > create table outlet (
    >     number int,
    >     name varchar(30),
    >     ...
    > }
    > 
    > create unique index outlet_key on outlet using btree (number);
    > 
    > select count(*) from outlet
    > where
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1) or
    >     (number = 1 and number = 1 and number = 1);
    > 
    > Not pretty but it makes the point.   Take out two OR clauses and the query works fine (but a bit slow).
    > 
    > The above query is all it takes to use up all 130000 Kbytes of memory.    And, since the query takes a long time to finally fail, I was able to
    > observe the memory consumption.
    > 
    > I extended the max data segment to 300000.  And tried again.   I could observer the memory consumption up to about 280000 when the system
    > suddenly got sick.   I was getting all kinds of messages like "cant fork"; bad stuff.  The system did finally recover on its own.   I am not
    > sure happened there.   I know that ulimit puts us right around the physical memory limits of out system.
    > 
    > Using 300 meg for the above query seems like a bit of a problem.   It is difficult to imagine where all that memory is being used.   I will
    > research the problem further if you need more information.
    > 
    > Bruce Momjian wrote:
    > 
    > > Try changing your OS default memory size.  Unsure how to do this under
    > > AIX.
    > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > ============================================================================
    > > >                         POSTGRESQL BUG REPORT TEMPLATE
    > > > ============================================================================
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Your name             : David Hartwig
    > > > Your email address    : daveh@insightdist.com
    > > >
    > > > Category              : runtime: back-end: SQL
    > > > Severity              : serious
    > > >
    > > > Summary: palloc fails with lots of ANDs and ORs
    > > >
    > > > System Configuration
    > > > --------------------
    > > >   Operating System   : AIX 4.1
    > > >
    > > >   PostgreSQL version : 6.2
    > > >
    > > >   Compiler used      : native CC
    > > >
    > > > Hardware:
    > > > ---------
    > > > RS 6000
    > > >
    > > > Versions of other tools:
    > > > ------------------------
    > > > NA
    > > >
    > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > >
    > > > Problem Description:
    > > > --------------------
    > > > The follow is a mail message describing the problem on the PostODBC mailing list:
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > I have run across this also.   We traced it down to a failure in the PostgreSQL server.   This occurs under the following conditions.
    > > >
    > > >     1.  MS Access
    > > >     2.  Specify a multi-part key in the link time setup with postgresql
    > > >     3.  Click on table view.
    > > >
    > > > What happens is MS Access takes the following steps.   First it selects all possible key values for the table being viewed.   I
    > > > suspect it maps the key values to the relative row position in the display.   Then it uses the mapping to generate future queries based
    > > > on the mapping and the rows showing on the screen.   The queries take the following form:
    > > >
    > > >     SELECT  keypart1, keypart2, keypart3, col4, col5, col6 ... FROM example_table
    > > >     WHERE
    > > >         (keypart1 = row1keypartval1 AND  keypart2 = row1keypartval2 AND  keypart3 = row1keypartval3) OR
    > > >         (keypart1 = row2keypartval1 AND  keypart2 = row2keypartval2 AND  keypart3 = row2keypartval3) OR
    > > >             .
    > > >             .      --  28 lines of this stuff.   Why 28... Why not 28
    > > >             .
    > > >         (keypart1 = row27keypartval1 AND  keypart2 = row27keypartval2 AND  keypart3 = row27keypartval3) OR
    > > >         (keypart1 = row28keypartval1 AND  keypart2 = row28keypartval2 AND  keypart3 = row28keypartval3);
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > The PostgreSQL sever chokes on this statement claiming it is out of memory.  (palloc)  In this example I used a three part key.  I
    > > > do not recall if a three part key is enough to trash the backend.  It has been a while.    I have tried sending these kinds of statements
    > > > directly through the psql monitor and get the same result.
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > >
    > > > Test Case:
    > > > ----------
    > > > select c1, c1 c3, c4, c5 ... from example_table
    > > > where
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something) or
    > > > (c1 = something and c2 = something and c3 = something and c4 = something);
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > >
    > > > Solution:
    > > > ---------
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------
    > > >
    > > >
    > > >
    > >
    > > --
    > > Bruce Momjian
    > > maillist@candle.pha.pa.us
    > 
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    -- 
    Bruce Momjian
    maillist@candle.pha.pa.us