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  1. BUG #19425: Parametric settings in collation not working in rule syntax

    The Post Office <noreply@postgresql.org> — 2026-03-04T08:43:13Z

    The following bug has been logged on the website:
    
    Bug reference:      19425
    Logged by:          Dorian
    Email address:      dorian.752@live.fr
    PostgreSQL version: 18.3
    Operating system:   Windows
    Description:        
    
    Hello,
    
    I want to create a custom collation with settings and tailoring rules, but I
    ran into an issue.
    
    When I create a custom collation, I first used collation settings in the
    local, giving me something like this :
    CREATE COLLATION IF NOT EXISTS und_ci_ai1(
        provider = icu,
        locale = 'und-u-ka-shifted-kc-false-ks-level1',
        deterministic = false
    );
    
    For instance, I can do this request and I will get the result '1' :
    SELECT 1 WHERE 'adm' LIKE 'Adm' COLLATE und_ci_ai1;
    
    But, I also want to add a tailoring rule. For the simplicity we will say
    that I want to add 'p < q'
    CREATE COLLATION IF NOT EXISTS und_ci_ai2(
        provider = icu,
        locale = 'und-u-ka-shifted-kc-false-ks-level1',
        deterministic = false,
        rules = $$
            & 'p' < 'q'
        $$
    );
    
    But, and this is my problem, the previous request doesn't seem to work
    anymore. It doesn't return '1' :
    SELECT 1 WHERE 'adm' LIKE 'Adm' COLLATE und_ci_ai2;
    
    For this request to return '1', I have to add 'a' = 'A' like this :
    rules = $$
            & 'p' < 'q'
            & 'a' = 'A'
    $$
    
    I didn't see in the documentation that I can't use settings in locale AND
    tailoring rules at the same time. But just in case I tried to use parametric
    settings in the rules syntax.
    Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to work at all, the request still doesn't
    return '1' :
    CREATE COLLATION IF NOT EXISTS und_ci_ai3(
        provider = icu,
        locale = 'und',
        deterministic = false,
        rules = $$
            [strength 1]
            [caseLevel off]
        $$
    );
    
    SELECT 1 WHERE 'adm' LIKE 'Adm' COLLATE und_ci_ai3;
    
    I hope I gave you all the infos you need. Thank you for your time.
    
    Here the documentations I used :
    https://www.postgresql.org/docs/current/collation.html#ICU-COLLATION-SETTINGS
    https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr35/tr35-collation.html#Setting_Options
    https://unicode-org.github.io/icu/userguide/collation/customization/
    
    
    
    
    
    
  2. Re: BUG #19425: Parametric settings in collation not working in rule syntax

    Daniel Verite <daniel@manitou-mail.org> — 2026-03-05T11:34:32Z

    	PG Bug reporting form wrote:
    
    > But, I also want to add a tailoring rule. For the simplicity we will say
    > that I want to add 'p < q'
    > CREATE COLLATION IF NOT EXISTS und_ci_ai2(
    >     provider = icu,
    >     locale = 'und-u-ka-shifted-kc-false-ks-level1',
    >     deterministic = false,
    >     rules = $$
    >         & 'p' < 'q'
    >     $$
    > );
    > 
    > But, and this is my problem, the previous request doesn't seem to work
    > anymore. It doesn't return '1' :
    
    This looks the same as bug #18771 discussed at
    https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/flat/18771-98bb23e455b0f367%40postgresql.org
    and
    https://www.postgresql.org/message-id/spHSrzQa0K_-Sqq9rNK-d6kelbfJG-z4XP6vn8tliiCHmjNYy45g2QOD92mrsNYqBpvj8Fi-qw4kXZhZmKjSVevzRSOvh6XzcNZBIV5wA3E=@protonmail.com
    
    There's a simple fix available at
    https://commitfest.postgresql.org/patch/6084/
    
    Hopefully it will make it into the next major release, but so far it has been
    lacking
    reviews.
    If you're able to compile Postgres, you may test the fix with your case and
    report on
    the results.
    
    
    Best regards,
    -- 
    Daniel Vérité 
    https://postgresql.verite.pro/