Re: Remove xmin and cmin from frozen tuples

Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>

From: Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
To: Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
Cc: Bruce Momjian <pgman@candle.pha.pa.us>, Josh Berkus <josh@agliodbs.com>, pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org, ITAGAKI Takahiro <itagaki.takahiro@lab.ntt.co.jp>
Date: 2005-09-02T20:27:59Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:
> On Fri, Sep 02, 2005 at 04:02:08PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
>> It has to be a *new* table, not an *empty* table.  If it's already
>> visible to other xacts then somebody else could insert into it in
>> parallel with you, because COPY doesn't take an exclusive lock.

> What about the indexes?  Logging one of the inserters and not the other
> is certain to corrupt the whole thing.

Good point, but that fits in just fine with the restriction to
just-created tables.

>> Contrariwise, it doesn't really matter (I think) if there are WAL-logged
>> records already in the table and COPY is adding more that aren't logged.

> Only if the page is locked in a fashion that the bulk loader can't
> insert tuples into a page that the other transaction is using.

What other transaction?  The point I was making is that
	BEGIN;
	CREATE TABLE ...
	INSERT ...
	COPY ...
is still optimizable.  There isn't going to be anyone competing with
the COPY while it runs.

			regards, tom lane