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  1. proposal for 8.5, listagg aggregate function, WIP patch

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2009-12-25T18:29:50Z

    Hello
    
    I am returning to discussion
    http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-hackers/2009-12/msg01378.php
    
    I propose a new aggregate function - listagg. This function
    concatenate values to string. If this function is used with two
    parameters, then second parameter is used as delimiter. NULL input
    values are ignored like other aggregates. If all values are NULL, then
    result is NULL. When delimiter is omitted, then values are
    concatenated without any delimiter.
    
    This function could be replaced with
    array_to_string(array_agg(),delimiter). It has same functionality, but
    different implementation. listagg should be (and it is) faster,
    because hasn't array overhead. In my tests - listagg is about 25%
    faster. Mainly, listagg is shorter. Because we cannot well wrap
    aggregates, I propose integrate this function. There are precedent -
    function generate_sequences. It should be replaced by
    generate_series(array_lower(), array_upper()), but it hasn't same
    effectiveness.
    
    Using:
    
    postgres=# select * from country ;
        town    | state
    ------------+-------
     Prague     | cs
     Brno       | cs
     Bratislava | sk
     Kosice     | sk
    (4 rows)
    
    postgres=# select listagg(town,',') from country group by state;
          listagg
    -------------------
     Bratislava,Kosice
     Prague,Brno
    (2 rows)
    
    Comments?
    
    Regards
    Pavel Stehule
    
  2. Re: proposal for 8.5, listagg aggregate function, WIP patch

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2009-12-25T21:29:16Z

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> writes:
    > I propose a new aggregate function - listagg. This function
    > concatenate values to string. If this function is used with two
    > parameters, then second parameter is used as delimiter. NULL input
    > values are ignored like other aggregates. If all values are NULL, then
    > result is NULL. When delimiter is omitted, then values are
    > concatenated without any delimiter.
    
    The main objection I have to this proposal is the name: listagg seems
    pretty horrid.  It's got nothing to do with lists, and it doesn't even
    attempt to be consistent with other existing function names.
    
    I can see a couple of different approaches that might make sense
    for choosing a better name.  One is "something_to_string", though
    I'm not sure what "something" should be --- maybe "rows" or "set"?
    The other approach is to name it something based on concat() on the
    grounds that it's a form of concatenation, and we do have "concat"
    in the standard in the guise of XMLCONCAT.  For instance there's some
    case for concat_agg() by analogy to array_agg(); though personally
    I think array_agg() is a horrid name too and not one of the SQL
    committee's better efforts.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  3. Re: proposal for 8.5, listagg aggregate function, WIP patch

    Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> — 2009-12-25T22:10:05Z

    2009/12/25 Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>:
    > Pavel Stehule <pavel.stehule@gmail.com> writes:
    >> I propose a new aggregate function - listagg. This function
    >> concatenate values to string. If this function is used with two
    >> parameters, then second parameter is used as delimiter. NULL input
    >> values are ignored like other aggregates. If all values are NULL, then
    >> result is NULL. When delimiter is omitted, then values are
    >> concatenated without any delimiter.
    >
    > The main objection I have to this proposal is the name: listagg seems
    > pretty horrid.  It's got nothing to do with lists, and it doesn't even
    > attempt to be consistent with other existing function names.
    
    It is list - on application level - without arrays - was used list of
    values separated by comma. I don't have a experience with Oracle. But
    I know this term in this meaning from MSSQL.
    
    >
    > I can see a couple of different approaches that might make sense
    > for choosing a better name.  One is "something_to_string", though
    > I'm not sure what "something" should be --- maybe "rows" or "set"?
    > The other approach is to name it something based on concat() on the
    > grounds that it's a form of concatenation, and we do have "concat"
    > in the standard in the guise of XMLCONCAT.  For instance there's some
    > case for concat_agg() by analogy to array_agg(); though personally
    > I think array_agg() is a horrid name too and not one of the SQL
    > committee's better efforts.
    
    I don't know, who though up named this function in Oracle. This
    functionality is known as "listagg" (Oracle) or "group_concat"
    (MySQL). I don't thing we need a third name for it. group_concat has
    enhanced syntax:
    
    GROUP_CONCAT([DISTINCT] expr [,expr ...]
                 [ORDER BY {unsigned_integer | col_name | expr}
                     [ASC | DESC] [,col_name ...]]
                 [SEPARATOR str_val])
    
    there are keyword SEPARATOR. Oracle's syntax is nearer to standard
    PostgreSQL's syntax
    
    http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E11882_01/server.112/e10592/functions087.htm
    
    But Oracle has own syntax too. After some experience today, I see some
    advantage Oracle's syntax over standard :).
    
    This function isn't standardised now, so we can use any name. I vote
    name used in Oracle db.
    
    Regards
    Pavel Stehule
    
    
    
    
    >
    >                        regards, tom lane
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