Re: allow changing autovacuum_max_workers without restarting
Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
From: Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org>
To: Nathan Bossart <nathandbossart@gmail.com>, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us>
Cc: Andres Freund <andres@anarazel.de>, pgsql-hackers@lists.postgresql.org,
"Imseih (AWS), Sami" <simseih@amazon.com>,
Justin Pryzby <pryzby@telsasoft.com>,
"pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org" <pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org>
Date: 2025-04-29T06:36:48Z
Lists: pgsql-hackers
On 28.04.25 16:41, Nathan Bossart wrote: > On Mon, Apr 28, 2025 at 09:14:54AM -0400, Tom Lane wrote: >> Peter Eisentraut <peter@eisentraut.org> writes: >>> This initdb output seems, well, kinda fake, which it is by its own >>> admission. >> >> Agreed. >> >>> Could we do this less fake maybe like this: >>> selecting default "max_connections", "autovacuum_worker_slots" ... 100, 16 >>> with the actual wait at the "..."? >> >> Perhaps that would be all right ... >> >>> (It doesn't seem impossible that someone will want to add more default >>> selecting for various worker or process slots, and this would allow adding >>> these easily, versus adding more "fake" output lines.) >> >> ... but I can't see this approach scaling to three or four or five >> outputs. The line would get unreasonably long. >> >> My own proposal given the way it works now is to just print >> max_connections and not mention autovacuum_worker_slots at all. >> Our choice for max_connections is worth reporting, but I don't >> feel that everything derived from it needs to be reported. > > I'm fine with either of these ideas. If I had to choose one, I'd just > remove the autovacuum_worker_slots report for the reasons Tom noted. Yes, removing the report is also fine by me. > However, weren't we considering reverting some of this stuff [0]? I see > that sawshark is now choosing max_connections = 40 and > autovacuum_worker_slots = 6, and since there are no other apparent related > buildfarm failures, I'm assuming that nobody else is testing the 60 > semaphores case anymore. > > [0] https://postgr.es/m/618497.1742347456%40sss.pgh.pa.us (I don't have any thoughts on this.)
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Give up on running with NetBSD/OpenBSD's default semaphore settings.
- 810a8b1c8051 18.0 landed
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initdb: Do not report default autovacuum_worker_slots.
- 2b49492eda3f 18.0 landed
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Lower default value of autovacuum_worker_slots in initdb as needed.
- 6d01541960e2 18.0 landed
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Allow changing autovacuum_max_workers without restarting.
- c758119e5bfb 18.0 landed
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Reserve a PGPROC slot and semaphore for the slotsync worker process.
- 2bdf1b2a2efc 18.0 cited
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Make archiver process an auxiliary process.
- d75288fb27b8 14.0 cited
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Correct the formulas for System V IPC parameters SEMMNI and SEMMNS in docs.
- 597f7e3a6ec3 9.6.0 cited