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  1. heap_tuple_needs_freeze false positive

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> — 2012-02-02T01:01:27Z

    Hi,
    
    I noticed that heap_tuple_needs_freeze might return true in cases where
    the Xmax is leftover junk from somebody who set HEAP_XMAX_INVALID in the
    far past without resetting the Xmax value itself to Invalid.  I think
    this is incorrect usage; the rule, I think, is that one shouldn't even
    read Xmax at all unless HEAP_XMAX_INVALID is reset.
    
    This might cause unnecessary acquisitions of the cleanup lock, if a
    tuple is deemed freezable when in fact it isn't.
    
    Suggested patch attached.  I'd backpatch this as far as it applies
    cleanly.
    
    -- 
    Álvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org>
    
  2. Re: heap_tuple_needs_freeze false positive

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2012-02-02T04:03:46Z

    Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> writes:
    > ! 	if (!(tuple->t_infomask & HEAP_XMAX_INVALID))
    >   	{
    > ! 		if (!(tuple->t_infomask & HEAP_XMAX_IS_MULTI))
    
    How about just one test,
    
    	if (!(tuple->t_infomask & (HEAP_XMAX_INVALID | HEAP_XMAX_IS_MULTI)))
    
    But other than that quibble, yeah, it's a bug.  XMAX_INVALID means just
    that: the xmax is not to be thought valid.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  3. Re: heap_tuple_needs_freeze false positive

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2012-02-02T14:30:48Z

    On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Alvaro Herrera <alvherre@alvh.no-ip.org> wrote:
    > Suggested patch attached.  I'd backpatch this as far as it applies
    > cleanly.
    
    This is new code in 9.2, but it's modelled on heap_freeze_tuple(), which is old.
    
    I'm not convinced that it's a bug.  Suppose that xmax is set but is
    hinted as invalid.  We process the table and advanced relfrozenxid;
    then, we crash.  After recovery, it's possible that the hint bit is
    gone (after all, setting hint bits isn't WAL-logged).  Now we're in
    big trouble, because the next CLOG lookup on that xmax value might not
    happen until it's been reused, and we might get a different answer
    than before.
    
    -- 
    Robert Haas
    EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
    The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
    
    
  4. Re: heap_tuple_needs_freeze false positive

    Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> — 2012-02-02T16:27:19Z

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
    > I'm not convinced that it's a bug.  Suppose that xmax is set but is
    > hinted as invalid.
    
    XMAX_INVALID is not a "hint".  When it's set, the contents of the field
    must be presumed to be garbage.  Any code failing to adhere to that rule
    is broken.
    
    > We process the table and advanced relfrozenxid;
    > then, we crash.  After recovery, it's possible that the hint bit is
    > gone (after all, setting hint bits isn't WAL-logged).  Now we're in
    > big trouble, because the next CLOG lookup on that xmax value might not
    > happen until it's been reused, and we might get a different answer
    > than before.
    
    I believe we have adequate defenses against that, and even if we did
    not, that doesn't make the code in question less wrong.
    
    			regards, tom lane
    
    
  5. Re: heap_tuple_needs_freeze false positive

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2012-02-02T17:45:40Z

    On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Tom Lane <tgl@sss.pgh.pa.us> wrote:
    > Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> writes:
    >> I'm not convinced that it's a bug.  Suppose that xmax is set but is
    >> hinted as invalid.
    >
    > XMAX_INVALID is not a "hint".  When it's set, the contents of the field
    > must be presumed to be garbage.  Any code failing to adhere to that rule
    > is broken.
    >
    >> We process the table and advanced relfrozenxid;
    >> then, we crash.  After recovery, it's possible that the hint bit is
    >> gone (after all, setting hint bits isn't WAL-logged).  Now we're in
    >> big trouble, because the next CLOG lookup on that xmax value might not
    >> happen until it's been reused, and we might get a different answer
    >> than before.
    >
    > I believe we have adequate defenses against that, and even if we did
    > not, that doesn't make the code in question less wrong.
    
    I believe the adequate defense that we have is precisely the logic you
    are proposing to change.  Regardless of whether you want to call
    XMAX_INVALID a hint or, say, a giant tortoise, I am fairly sure that
    we don't WAL-log setting it.  That means that a bit set before a crash
    won't necessarily still be set after a crash.  But the corresponding
    relfrozenxid advancement will be WAL-logged, leading to the problem
    scenario I described.
    
    -- 
    Robert Haas
    EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
    The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company
    
    
  6. Re: heap_tuple_needs_freeze false positive

    Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> — 2012-02-02T17:54:50Z

    On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Robert Haas <robertmhaas@gmail.com> wrote:
    > I believe the adequate defense that we have is precisely the logic you
    > are proposing to change.  Regardless of whether you want to call
    > XMAX_INVALID a hint or, say, a giant tortoise, I am fairly sure that
    > we don't WAL-log setting it.  That means that a bit set before a crash
    > won't necessarily still be set after a crash.  But the corresponding
    > relfrozenxid advancement will be WAL-logged, leading to the problem
    > scenario I described.
    
    To put that another way, the problem isn't that we might have code
    somewhere in the system that ignores HEAP_XMAX_INVALID.  The problem
    is that HEAP_XMAX_INVALID might not still be set on that tuple the
    next time somebody looks at it, if a database crash intervenes after
    that bit is set and before it is flushed to disk.
    
    -- 
    Robert Haas
    EnterpriseDB: http://www.enterprisedb.com
    The Enterprise PostgreSQL Company